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https://www.w3.org/2021/08/05-i18n-minutes.html – DRAFT – Internationalization Working Group Teleconference 05 August 2021 [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log. [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2021Aug/0000.html [3] https://www.w3.org/2021/08/05-i18n-irc Attendees Present addison, atsushi, Bert, Felix, Fuqiao, Richard Regrets - Chair Addison Phillips Scribe fsasaki Contents 1. [4]Agenda Review 2. [5]Action Items 3. [6]Info Share 4. [7]RADAR Review 5. [8]RADAR Review 6. [9]Ok to merge Charmod-norm PR ? 7. [10]Updates to an article 8. [11]"Awaiting Comment Resolution" reviews 9. [12]AOB? 10. [13]Summary of action items Meeting minutes <addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference Agenda Review Action Items <addison> [14]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/ open [14] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open addison: not working on string meta at the moment … need to wrap up 1017 action-1034? <trackbot> [15]action-1034: Addison Phillips to Triage awaiting comment resolution items -- due 2021-06-24 -- OPEN [15] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1034 addison: ongoing action-1039? <trackbot> [16]action-1039: Richard Ishida to Propose pr for https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/4814 -- due 2021-07-01 -- OPEN [16] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1039 richard: ongoing action-1048? <trackbot> [17]action-1048: Addison Phillips to Create PR on webauthn with new metadata proposal -- due 2021-07-21 -- OPEN [17] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1048 addison: ongoing … they asked me back to their telco, next week … will start prototyping the text action-1050? <trackbot> [18]action-1050: Addison Phillips to Merge string-meta changes pending richard's review of the glossary changes -- due 2021-07-22 -- OPEN [18] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1050 addison: is the glossary updated? richard: yes addison: I will then merge my stuff action-1051? <trackbot> [19]action-1051: Addison Phillips to File issues about domexception against webidl to add metadata and to provide for localizability -- due 2021-07-22 -- OPEN [19] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1051 addision: tbd action-1052? <trackbot> [20]action-1052: Richard Ishida to Investigate glossary linking solutions, e.g. marcos's -- due 2021-07-29 -- OPEN [20] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1052 richard: ongoing, but OK to close <addison> close action-1052 <trackbot> Closed action-1052. action-1053? <trackbot> [21]action-1053: Richard Ishida to Make pr for charmod-norm with proposed additions to mustard and organizational updates to section 3.2 -- due 2021-07-29 -- OPEN [21] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1053 addison: that is the agenda+, ok to close this <addison> close action-1053 <trackbot> Closed action-1053. action-1054? <trackbot> [22]action-1054: Addison Phillips to Notify that dom review completed with no new issues (outstanding issues remain open for future work) -- due 2021-08-05 -- OPEN [22] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1054 addison: done <addison> close action-1054 <trackbot> Closed action-1054. action-1054? <trackbot> [23]action-1054: Addison Phillips to Notify that dom review completed with no new issues (outstanding issues remain open for future work) -- due 2021-08-05 -- CLOSED [23] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1054 addison: need help from Richard to work on this, will discuss offline richard: start with the guide addison: will do … do we need to do trans req? richard: yes xfq: do you want to send this to wide review after publication? addison: will discuss this as a group … but we want to get this into TR space action-1056? <trackbot> [24]action-1056: Richard Ishida to Publish the paragraph direction definition -- due 2021-08-05 -- OPEN [24] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1056 <addison> close action-1056 <trackbot> Closed action-1056. richard: done action-1057? <trackbot> [25]action-1057: Richard Ishida to Add more information about using left/right as well as start/end -- due 2021-08-05 -- OPEN [25] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1057 richard: done <addison> close action-1057 <trackbot> Closed action-1057. richard: I did edit in HTML and CSS authoring guidelines and other docs Info Share richard: new charters will start on October 1st … request for review to AC will be sent out soon RADAR Review richard: more infoshare .. had telco with Apple folks, who are involved in language enablement … going to be working with Miles more to pick things for the safari folks to work on … if you have a preference for things to be fixed sooner than later, let me know … they seemed happy with the progress made addison: any areas you want to focus on? richard: I made a shortlist of things specific to safari, just my personal point of view <r12a> --- richard: see here: <r12a> - [ ] Customised counter styles are unavailable [26]https://github.com/w3c/iip/issues/93 [26] https://github.com/w3c/iip/issues/93 <r12a> - [ ] Support for isolating formatting characters lacking [27]https://github.com/w3c/afrlreq/issues/10 [27] https://github.com/w3c/afrlreq/issues/10 <r12a> - [ ] CSS writing-modes 4, sideways values not implemented [28]https://github.com/w3c/eurlreq/issues/11 [28] https://github.com/w3c/eurlreq/issues/11 <r12a> - [ ] Logical keyword support for shortcuts [29]https:// github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/217 [29] https://github.com/w3c/alreq/issues/217 <r12a> - [ ] Q element produces incorrect quotation marks when language changes [30]https://github.com/w3c/eurlreq/issues/22 [30] https://github.com/w3c/eurlreq/issues/22 <r12a> - [ ] In-page search fails on ruby-annotated text [31]https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues/255 [31] https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues/255 <r12a> - [ ] Poor level of support for vertical form controls [32]https://github.com/w3c/clreq/issues/247 [32] https://github.com/w3c/clreq/issues/247 <r12a> - [ ] Mongolian support badly broken [33]https:// github.com/w3c/mlreq/issues/39 [33] https://github.com/w3c/mlreq/issues/39 <r12a> --- addison: a really good list! richard: around ruby, many things are going on … elika and florian are trying to push ruby into HTML … everybody wants ruby to be fixed asap xfq: my question was related not only to bopomofo, but general ruby … chris and I have been discussing blocking issues in CSS … these involve also some I18N issues richard: plh is pushing as well, asking if I18N can do something … we have done a lot, suggesting methods to address the issues … things are now with Chris to get things moving … there is two issues: … font fingerprinting, and generic fallbacks xfq: and ruby richard: yes … important to pay attention if stuff starts moving again RADAR Review <addison> [34]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 [34] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1 addison: css masking xfq: will take a look richard: chris did a self review, you may want to look at that … masking spec may have issues related to text direction xfq: yes, potential issues Ok to merge Charmod-norm PR ? <r12a> [35]https://github.com/w3c/charmod-norm/pull/217 [35] https://github.com/w3c/charmod-norm/pull/217 addison: goal is to review this and to publish all accumulated updates to TR richard: I need a reminder on this, e.g. an action addison: any comments on the changes? <r12a> [36]https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/ charmod-norm/pull/217.html#performNorm [36] https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/charmod-norm/pull/217.html#performNorm no comments addison: any objections to publish this? Action: richard: merge pr217 and publish charmod-norm to TR <trackbot> Created ACTION-1058 - Merge pr217 and publish charmod-norm to tr [on Richard Ishida - due 2021-08-12]. Updates to an article <addison> [37]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/ typography/justification.en#sea [37] https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/typography/justification.en#sea richard: previous version of section was very short … now it is more detailed, repurposes stuff from other articles addison: looks good to me +1 <xfq> +1 Action: richard: publish update to typography article <trackbot> Created ACTION-1059 - Publish update to typography article [on Richard Ishida - due 2021-08-12]. <r12a> Approaches to full justification "Awaiting Comment Resolution" reviews addison: we have a long list of items … links to issue sets are in the agenda … some issues we need to look at, or say "otherwise" <addison> [38]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/ issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3As%3Atracking-dnt [38] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:s:tracking-dnt addison: first is tracking dnt, see above link felix: group is closed? richard: yes, and the doc has become a note bert: anybody will answer our comments, so will we archive this until there is a group to answer? richard: agree … we close it and put a "recycle" label on it, so that we can resurrect it later addison: doc is a note, WG is closed, so what is the state of the review? We are unsatisfied? richard: nobody will worry about the status from the transition point of view … "recylce" means: "closed" but not resolved, from our perspective addison: OK with "recycle" label and close addison added the label and closed the issue <addison> [39]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/ issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3As%3Apush-api [39] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:s:push-api addison: moving to push api discussion of what labels to add to tracking-dnt addison: push-api is simpler, both issues are marked for "close" <xfq> [40]https://www.w3.org/TR/push-api/ [40] https://www.w3.org/TR/push-api/ document is a WD richard: are we satisfied? richard: atsushi, do you remember whether the PR fixed the problem? addison: the pull request does not seem to talk about the topic of the issue … but indirectly fixes the issue … I think that they have addressed the issue … any objections against closing? no objections addison: moving to the next issue … question is whether a health warning is required richard: the FFFE characters are the health warning … that is why it does not fall over … you get something addison: there is nothing saying "if you send non utf-8, it will not work" … there is a lot of discussions about byte sequences richard: I thought that non utf-8 stuff will be decoded to utf-8 … and if something goes wrong, we get an error situation addison: if you have bytes which are text, and not utf-8 … you need an array buffer and then decode yourself richard: that is what their code does <addison> [41]https://www.w3.org/TR/ push-api/#pushmessagedata-interface [41] https://www.w3.org/TR/push-api/#pushmessagedata-interface addison: correct addison: that is an interface to get the content of the push message … if you want to read the message as text, the message needs to be utf-8 … should we bring this to the top of their list again? richard: this is about their text method addison: you take the bytes, and use "utf-8 decode" to generate a unicode string … you return the unicode string as a value richard: they say that issues are handled by the "utf 8 decode" algorithm addison: that is ok … I am just saying there should be a health warning that this depends on the data to be in utf-8 … if you have other encodings, the "text" methods will not handle the encoding conversion … should I make a separate comment? richard: yes, and close this one <addison> addison: completed? <addison> richard: with a new issue probably not? <atsushi> +1 for new one.. AOB? Summary of action items 1. [42]richard: merge pr217 and publish charmod-norm to TR 2. [43]richard: publish update to typography article
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