[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2018-12-06

https://www.w3.org/2018/12/06-i18n-minutes.html





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            Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

06 Dec 2018

    [2]Agenda

       [2] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2018Dec/0000.html

Attendees

    Present
           Bert, David, Fuqiao, Katy, addison, atsushi, r12a, JcK

    Regrets

    Chair
           Addison Phillips

    Scribe
           addison

Contents

      * [3]Topics
          1. [4]Agenda and Minutes
          2. [5]Action Items
          3. [6]Info Share
          4. [7]RADAR and Active Work Review
          5. [8]What time is this meeting at?
          6. [9]input type=email change proposals #607
          7. [10]AOB?
      * [11]Summary of Action Items
      * [12]Summary of Resolutions
      __________________________________________________________

    trackbot, prepare teleconference

    <agendabot> clear agenda

    <scribe> ScribeNick: addison

Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

    [13]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

      [13] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

    action-748?

    <trackbot> action-748 -- Bert Bos to Also review credentials
    spec -- due 2018-08-23 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [14]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/748

      [14] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/748

    close action-748

    <trackbot> Closed action-748.

    action-762?

    <trackbot> action-762 -- Addison Phillips to Comment on
    temporal and 3339 etc etc in ecma-402 -- due 2018-10-29 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [15]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/762

      [15] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/762

    close action-762

    <trackbot> Closed action-762.

    action-763?

    <trackbot> action-763 -- Richard Ishida to Contact koji about
    garnering implementer support for eai -- due 2018-10-30 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [16]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/763

      [16] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/763

    close action-763

    <trackbot> Closed action-763.

    superseded by my attending meeting with whatwg

    action-765?

    <trackbot> action-765 -- Richard Ishida to Contact
    nayef/muhammed for next steps in arranging translations, etc.
    -- due 2018-10-30 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [17]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/765

      [17] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/765

    close action-765

    <trackbot> Closed action-765.

    action-766?

    <trackbot> action-766 -- Addison Phillips to Survey for an hour
    earlier time for wg call vs. current set up -- due 2018-11-08
    -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [18]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/766

      [18] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/766

    close action-766

    <trackbot> Closed action-766.

Info Share

    jck: in addition to work on eai
    ... major flap in ietf about how they do i18n
    ... recommendations not being picked up

    david: reviewing work by colleagues
    ... in a css class id, included a cowboy emoji
    ... it actually works on most browsers

    richard: if you go here

    <r12a> [19]https://www.w3.org/International/tests/#other

      [19] https://www.w3.org/International/tests/#other

    richard: there's a new section in test suite
    ... index page, "exploratory"
    ... justification and letter spacing

    <r12a>
    [20]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-tests/results/exploring-justify-
    space

      [20] https://w3c.github.io/i18n-tests/results/exploring-justify-space

    richard: if you click justification
    ... there are no results
    ... these are exploratory tests you can use to see if things
    work
    ... can add own tests

    addison: that is extremely useful

    <r12a> [21]https://r12a.github.io/pickers/vai/

      [21] https://r12a.github.io/pickers/vai/

    richard: there is now a Vai picker available
    ... syllabic script with 300 or so characters
    ... slightly odd setup
    ... might want table view
    ... this is version 23

RADAR and Active Work Review

    [22]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

      [22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

    richard: fantasai trying to finish css text by end of year

    addison: agenda item for next week to review css text

    <scribe> ACTION: richard: change the date used in the member
    page for the meeting info

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-767 - Change the date used in the
    member page for the meeting info [on Richard Ishida - due
    2018-12-13].

    [23]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

      [23] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

    richard: mongolian layout TF kicked off
    ... katy doing some nice work on redesigning the article format
    ... look at it next week perhaps?

    katy: early mock up currently

    <r12a>
    [24]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-html-css-norm
    alization-TEST.en

      [24] 
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-html-css-normalization-TEST.en

    richard: this isn't really representative, but shows a couple
    of elements of what she did

    <r12a>
    [25]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-html-language
    -declarations-TEST.en

      [25] 
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-html-language-declarations-TEST.en

    <r12a>
    [26]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-byte-order-ma
    rk-TEST.en

      [26] 
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/questions/qa-byte-order-mark-TEST.en

What time is this meeting at?

    proposed: 2 hours earlier?

    addison to follow with email

input type=email change proposals #607

    [27]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/607

      [27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/607

    jck: two observations about left hand side
    ... first is procedural, a great deal of work from universal
    acceptance
    ... has demonstrated that there are issues
    ... there is a doc some of us are working on, which describes
    universal acceptance
    ... has a lot of errors currently
    ... second is do not interpret a working paper from a
    participant of universal acceptance as a doc from ICANN
    ... probably made an error allowing unrestricted unicode in LHS
    ... difficulties would be less if emails not used as identifers
    outside email

    addison: should we kick can while eai works on it?

    jck: diff between someone else's address vs. your own, generate
    vs. accept
    ... need to work on generate side, narrow it down to unicode
    identifier rules for example

    addison: that's the crux here. html on the accept side

    jck: nudge down road until there is a specific proposal?

    richard: in former discussion in bugzilla
    ... why is html spec trying to do the validation
    ... some folks on list think maybe don't enforce that?
    ... also suggested two types, one draconian ascii-only and the
    other "real world"

    addison: type=email would be the first one, I believe

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: richard: change the date used in the member page
    for the meeting info

Summary of Resolutions

    [End of minutes]

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