- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 17:28:53 +0100
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
https://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html text extract follows: - DRAFT - Internationalization Working Group Teleconference 28 Sep 2017 [2]Agenda [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Sep/0013.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-irc Attendees Present addison, David, JcK, Bert, r12a, David_, andrewc Regrets Steven Chair Addison Phillips Scribe addison Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Agenda 2. [6]Action Items 3. [7]Info Share 4. [8]Radar 5. [9]Websub content negotiation 6. [10]Review Pending and Close issues (continued) 7. [11]UTR 53 Unicode Arabic Mark Ordering Algorithm * [12]Summary of Action Items * [13]Summary of Resolutions __________________________________________________________ trackbot, prepare teleconference <scribe> ScribeNick: addison Note Well: new dial-in info [14]https://www.w3.org/2017/09/i18n-meeting-info.html [14] https://www.w3.org/2017/09/i18n-meeting-info.html <r12a> Previous meeting minutes: [15]https://www.w3.org/2017/09/21-i18n-minutes.html [15] https://www.w3.org/2017/09/21-i18n-minutes.html Agenda Action Items [16]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open [16] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open action-618? <trackbot> action-618 -- Richard Ishida to Create a short document about making direction default recommendation to be 'auto' and send to www-international@ for review -- due 2017-08-25 -- OPEN <trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/618 [17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/618 close action-618 <trackbot> Closed action-618. action-652? <trackbot> action-652 -- Addison Phillips to Ensure that our tpac av request is filed -- due 2017-09-21 -- OPEN <trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/652 [18] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/652 close action-652 <trackbot> Closed action-652. action-655? <trackbot> action-655 -- Richard Ishida to Send pending issues agreed during call, and close issues agreed during call; and send out new list for discussion next week -- due 2017-09-28 -- OPEN <trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/655 [19] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/655 close action-655 <trackbot> Closed action-655. Info Share Radar [20]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1 [20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1 [21]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/ [21] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/ richard: education, possibility of developing a course in i18n, arabic in html/css Websub content negotiation [22]https://github.com/w3c/websub/issues/124 [22] https://github.com/w3c/websub/issues/124 <r12a> [23]https://w3c.github.io/websub/#content-negotiation [23] https://w3c.github.io/websub/#content-negotiation (discussion) <scribe> ACTION: richard: notify Websub we are satisfied with 124 [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action01] [24] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-656 - Notify websub we are satisfied with 124 [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-10-05]. Review Pending and Close issues (continued) <r12a> [25]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/ [25] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/ <r12a> [26]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/387 [26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/387 <scribe> ACTION: richard: contact fantasai about issue 387 inviting summary of current status of text-emphasis-position [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action02] [27] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-657 - Contact fantasai about issue 387 inviting summary of current status of text-emphasis-position [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-10-05]. [28]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/23 [28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/23 richard: almost closeable ... spec implied one emphasis mark per character ... meaning Unicode codepoint perhaps ... spec updated to mean text unit ... which is tailored grapheme cluster no object to original comment richard: just close? close [29]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/389 [29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/389 <r12a> [30]https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues/9 [30] https://github.com/w3c/jlreq/issues/9 addison: emphasis marks too? [31]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/388 [31] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/388 add 388 to the action item [32]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/385 [32] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/385 in vertical ja, marks/underline on right, in zh, on left scribe: what happens when ja embedded in zh or vice versa richard: also question about whether Korean uses emphasis marks, raised a question ... seen in horizontal text ... raised question [33]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/395 [33] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/395 <r12a> [34]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1288 [34] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1288 <r12a> JcK: this could also be an issue in Latin, eg. what happens in 'gij' ? <r12a> andrew: you need to ensure that it doesn't clash with latin characters with dot below or macron below <r12a> ACTION: Richard to look for latin text with dot or macron below that could cause problems for underline [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action03] [35] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-658 - Look for latin text with dot or macron below that could cause problems for underline [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-10-05]. <r12a> ACTION: Richard de-pend all the css-text-decor issues [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action04] [36] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-659 - De-pend all the css-text-decor issues [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-10-05]. UTR 53 Unicode Arabic Mark Ordering Algorithm [37]http://www.unicode.org/review/pri359/ [37] http://www.unicode.org/review/pri359/ [38]http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr53/tr53-1.pdf [38] http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr53/tr53-1.pdf <r12a> [39]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is %3Aopen+label%3Autr53 [39] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:utr53 richard: if you look at page 7 ... example 2a and 2b ... sukun under seen ... problem is to get order to stay same ... if normalized, you get 2b (always) ... messed up original numbering for normalization ... trying to address ... means is an additional bit of normalization just for arabic ... but could spread to other scripts ... re-orders things that are borken ... in order to place in either order, you should use a CGJ ... as soon as you run NFC/NFD on this, you will break one ... then reapply arabic only algorithm addison: don't want to change the normalization itself? richard: stability says can't change ... big worry is go back to all specs that deal with normalization addison: a new normalization form :-( richard: add rules to normalization, additional decision point since only arabic andrewc: myanmar script, order of code points different from normalization richard: have a look at what I wrote Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Richard de-pend all the css-text-decor issues [recorded in [40]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action04] [NEW] ACTION: Richard to look for latin text with dot or macron below that could cause problems for underline [recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: richard: contact fantasai about issue 387 inviting summary of current status of text-emphasis-position [recorded in [42]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: richard: notify Websub we are satisfied with 124 [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action01] [40] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action04 [41] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action03 [42] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action02 [43] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html#action01 Summary of Resolutions [End of minutes] ___________________
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