- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 16:11:07 +0100
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https://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14 Sep 2017
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Bert, addison, steve, r12a, David, andrewc, JcK
Regrets
Jan, Steve
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Agenda
2. [5]Action Items
3. [6]Info Share
4. [7]Radar
5. [8]Issue Review
6. [9]AOB?
* [10]Summary of Action Items
* [11]Summary of Resolutions
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previous minutes
https://www.w3.org/2017/09/07-i18n-minutes.html
<scribe> ScribeNick: addison
Agenda
Action Items
[12]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[12] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-636?
<trackbot> action-636 -- Addison Phillips to Update floating
times q+a to address confusing section at end -- due 2017-07-20
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[13]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/636
[13] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/636
close action-636
<trackbot> Closed action-636.
action-650?
<trackbot> action-650 -- Addison Phillips to Write to remote
playback and indicate that we are satisfied and our review is
in fact complete -- due 2017-09-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[14]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/650
[14] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/650
close action-650
<trackbot> Closed action-650.
action-651?
<trackbot> action-651 -- Richard Ishida to Shorten the list of
pending/closed items and reissue for next telecon discussion --
due 2017-09-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/651
[15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/651
close action-651
<trackbot> Closed action-651.
Info Share
addison: to be in Amman, Jordan
richard: just written outline for a course for the w3c edx
program
... something like "writing html in arabic/for arabic users"
<r12a> TPAC AV
[16]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2017JulSep/0149
.html
[16] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2017JulSep/0149.html
<scribe> ACTION: addison: ensure that our TPAC AV request is
filed [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[17] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01
<trackbot> Created ACTION-652 - Ensure that our tpac av request
is filed [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-09-21].
<r12a> [18]https://r12a.github.io/app-keyevents/
[18] https://r12a.github.io/app-keyevents/
richard: just today uploaded a new applet
... key even monitor
... had one years ago, but updated to match key-events
... gives info about what info key event object has stored
... could be handy for key events spec
... also grappling with accesskey
... just writing tests
... finding diff results
... things we want to mention in html spec
... also reviewing wcag spec
... likely some input there
... and possibly ui events spec
... they don' tmention what happens when key produces more than
one char
... shift-A produces diacritic with a base character together
... in FF and Safari, they key event .key value becomes both
... but chrome only the last one
... needs more testing
jck: will miss next weeks call
andrew: want to talk sometime about how key event monitoring
richard: want more documentation?
andrew: trying different keyboards, typing same key
richard: key should give you the character that keyboard
produces
... and code should give you the same thing, like KEY D
... and modifiers tells whether you pressed shift/alt/ctrl/meta
andrew: third party input frameworks don't produce anything
... and mac viet keyboard
... some getting dead as a result
... how keyboards work across plafs will be different (e.g.
viet)
Radar
[19]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
[19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
[20]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017S
ep/0004.html
[20]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Sep/0004.html
request for DNT review
richard: a request to review WCAG 2.1
... additions to previous ver
... working through and raising issues
... didn't put a WCAG label in radar yet
<r12a>
[21]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is
%3Aopen+label%3Awcag
[21]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:wcag
richard: but issues at above link
[22]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
[22] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
richard: mention that Bert has been doing some
<r12a>
[23]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/language-matrix.htm
l
[23] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/language-matrix.html
richard: language matrix
... scroll down you'll see Dutch
<r12a> [24]http://w3c.github.io/typography/gap-analysis/latn-nl
[24] http://w3c.github.io/typography/gap-analysis/latn-nl
richard: gap analysis of Dutch
... tricky question we need to figure out answer to
... for notes/footnotes/running heads/etc.
... those features are not available in any browsers at the
moment
... how do we mark up?
... color gray? doesn't indicate work there. but orange or
green... really looking for i18n specific things
addison: diff between broken-and-unimpl vs. unimpl?
richard: want to know the difference
... spec vs. impl issue, maybe use a different symbol
Issue Review
[25]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2017
JulSep/0101.html
[25]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2017JulSep/0101.html
[26]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/400
[26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/400
addison: I can forward it
... they're not likely to do anything with it
[27]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/413
[27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/413
jck: valid vs. invalid utf-8 codes, reference encoding is
probably a good idea
forward with ref to encoding preferred
richard: if point to something, point to encoding?
jck: wfm
[28]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/399
[28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/399
forward
[29]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/385
[29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/385
richard: these are issues that have been raised sometime ago
... fantasai asked me to go through for dispositino of comments
... where input needed, marked as pending
... discussion already there, but we haven't take initiative
... need to read thread and make contributions
addison: need tracking label?
richard: send email around asking for input
<scribe> ACTION: richard: send email about default stylesheet
for emphasis marks (issue 385) seeking input [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[30] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02
<trackbot> Created ACTION-653 - Send email about default
stylesheet for emphasis marks (issue 385) seeking input [on
Richard Ishida - due 2017-09-21].
[31]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/388
[31] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/388
richard: all of these are the same, will list all of them
[32]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/378
[32] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/378
not i18n
joc to raise as individual issue
[33]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/379
[33] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/379
no objections, forward
[34]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/377
[34] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/377
forward
[35]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/351
[35] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/351
forward
[36]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/350
[36] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/350
addison: is this talking about a paste operation?
... capture the direction context
... may want to recreate direction on a full para, but not if
inserted into a larger context
richard: asking to have a discussion
... discuss with input events people
forward
[37]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/349
[37] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/349
forward
[38]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/211
[38] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/211
richard: about delete word backwards/forwards
jck: also the question about which direction 'forwards' and
'backwards' means
addison: logical order?
... logically preceeding the caret
andrew: LTR text with page order is influenced by arabic (bound
left)
richard: really interesting, can you send info to list?
forward
[39]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/210
[39] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/210
forward
<r12a> ACTION: Richard to forward all comments we discussed
during telecon. [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[40] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03
<trackbot> Created ACTION-654 - Forward all comments we
discussed during telecon. [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-09-21].
AOB?
richard: will shorten list again
... I'm knee deep in apples, please come pick some up
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: ensure that our TPAC AV request is filed
[recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Richard to forward all comments we discussed
during telecon. [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: send email about default stylesheet for
emphasis marks (issue 385) seeking input [recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[41] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01
[42] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03
[43] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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