- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 16:11:07 +0100
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https://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html text extract follows: - DRAFT - Internationalization Working Group Teleconference 14 Sep 2017 See also: [2]IRC log [2] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-irc Attendees Present Bert, addison, steve, r12a, David, andrewc, JcK Regrets Jan, Steve Chair Addison Phillips Scribe Addison Phillips Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]Agenda 2. [5]Action Items 3. [6]Info Share 4. [7]Radar 5. [8]Issue Review 6. [9]AOB? * [10]Summary of Action Items * [11]Summary of Resolutions __________________________________________________________ previous minutes https://www.w3.org/2017/09/07-i18n-minutes.html <scribe> ScribeNick: addison Agenda Action Items [12]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open [12] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open action-636? <trackbot> action-636 -- Addison Phillips to Update floating times q+a to address confusing section at end -- due 2017-07-20 -- OPEN <trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/636 [13] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/636 close action-636 <trackbot> Closed action-636. action-650? <trackbot> action-650 -- Addison Phillips to Write to remote playback and indicate that we are satisfied and our review is in fact complete -- due 2017-09-14 -- OPEN <trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/650 [14] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/650 close action-650 <trackbot> Closed action-650. action-651? <trackbot> action-651 -- Richard Ishida to Shorten the list of pending/closed items and reissue for next telecon discussion -- due 2017-09-14 -- OPEN <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/651 [15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/651 close action-651 <trackbot> Closed action-651. Info Share addison: to be in Amman, Jordan richard: just written outline for a course for the w3c edx program ... something like "writing html in arabic/for arabic users" <r12a> TPAC AV [16]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2017JulSep/0149 .html [16] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2017JulSep/0149.html <scribe> ACTION: addison: ensure that our TPAC AV request is filed [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01] [17] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-652 - Ensure that our tpac av request is filed [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-09-21]. <r12a> [18]https://r12a.github.io/app-keyevents/ [18] https://r12a.github.io/app-keyevents/ richard: just today uploaded a new applet ... key even monitor ... had one years ago, but updated to match key-events ... gives info about what info key event object has stored ... could be handy for key events spec ... also grappling with accesskey ... just writing tests ... finding diff results ... things we want to mention in html spec ... also reviewing wcag spec ... likely some input there ... and possibly ui events spec ... they don' tmention what happens when key produces more than one char ... shift-A produces diacritic with a base character together ... in FF and Safari, they key event .key value becomes both ... but chrome only the last one ... needs more testing jck: will miss next weeks call andrew: want to talk sometime about how key event monitoring richard: want more documentation? andrew: trying different keyboards, typing same key richard: key should give you the character that keyboard produces ... and code should give you the same thing, like KEY D ... and modifiers tells whether you pressed shift/alt/ctrl/meta andrew: third party input frameworks don't produce anything ... and mac viet keyboard ... some getting dead as a result ... how keyboards work across plafs will be different (e.g. viet) Radar [19]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1 [19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1 [20]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017S ep/0004.html [20] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Sep/0004.html request for DNT review richard: a request to review WCAG 2.1 ... additions to previous ver ... working through and raising issues ... didn't put a WCAG label in radar yet <r12a> [21]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is %3Aopen+label%3Awcag [21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:wcag richard: but issues at above link [22]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/ [22] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/ richard: mention that Bert has been doing some <r12a> [23]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/language-matrix.htm l [23] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/language-matrix.html richard: language matrix ... scroll down you'll see Dutch <r12a> [24]http://w3c.github.io/typography/gap-analysis/latn-nl [24] http://w3c.github.io/typography/gap-analysis/latn-nl richard: gap analysis of Dutch ... tricky question we need to figure out answer to ... for notes/footnotes/running heads/etc. ... those features are not available in any browsers at the moment ... how do we mark up? ... color gray? doesn't indicate work there. but orange or green... really looking for i18n specific things addison: diff between broken-and-unimpl vs. unimpl? richard: want to know the difference ... spec vs. impl issue, maybe use a different symbol Issue Review [25]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2017 JulSep/0101.html [25] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2017JulSep/0101.html [26]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/400 [26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/400 addison: I can forward it ... they're not likely to do anything with it [27]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/413 [27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/413 jck: valid vs. invalid utf-8 codes, reference encoding is probably a good idea forward with ref to encoding preferred richard: if point to something, point to encoding? jck: wfm [28]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/399 [28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/399 forward [29]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/385 [29] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/385 richard: these are issues that have been raised sometime ago ... fantasai asked me to go through for dispositino of comments ... where input needed, marked as pending ... discussion already there, but we haven't take initiative ... need to read thread and make contributions addison: need tracking label? richard: send email around asking for input <scribe> ACTION: richard: send email about default stylesheet for emphasis marks (issue 385) seeking input [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02] [30] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-653 - Send email about default stylesheet for emphasis marks (issue 385) seeking input [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-09-21]. [31]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/388 [31] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/388 richard: all of these are the same, will list all of them [32]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/378 [32] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/378 not i18n joc to raise as individual issue [33]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/379 [33] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/379 no objections, forward [34]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/377 [34] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/377 forward [35]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/351 [35] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/351 forward [36]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/350 [36] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/350 addison: is this talking about a paste operation? ... capture the direction context ... may want to recreate direction on a full para, but not if inserted into a larger context richard: asking to have a discussion ... discuss with input events people forward [37]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/349 [37] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/349 forward [38]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/211 [38] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/211 richard: about delete word backwards/forwards jck: also the question about which direction 'forwards' and 'backwards' means addison: logical order? ... logically preceeding the caret andrew: LTR text with page order is influenced by arabic (bound left) richard: really interesting, can you send info to list? forward [39]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/210 [39] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/210 forward <r12a> ACTION: Richard to forward all comments we discussed during telecon. [recorded in [40]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03] [40] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-654 - Forward all comments we discussed during telecon. [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-09-21]. AOB? richard: will shorten list again ... I'm knee deep in apples, please come pick some up Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: addison: ensure that our TPAC AV request is filed [recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: Richard to forward all comments we discussed during telecon. [recorded in [42]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: richard: send email about default stylesheet for emphasis marks (issue 385) seeking input [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02] [41] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01 [42] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action03 [43] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/14-i18n-minutes.html#action02 Summary of Resolutions [End of minutes]
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