- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:09:19 +0100
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https://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
24 Aug 2017
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Aug/0017.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
JcK, Bert, r12a, David, Addison, (IRC, only), Steven
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]agenda
2. [6]action items
3. [7]info share
4. [8]radar and active work review
5. [9]https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/2945
6. [10]string-meta
7. [11]strings and bidi article
8. [12]AOB?
* [13]Summary of Action Items
* [14]Summary of Resolutions
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trackbot, prepare teleconference
<scribe> ScribeNick: addison
agenda
action items
[15]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[15] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
close action-614
<trackbot> Closed action-614.
action-643?
<trackbot> action-643 -- Richard Ishida to Close ttml issues --
due 2017-08-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/643
[16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/643
richard: a couple where there need to make notes, so haven't
closed those
close action-643
<trackbot> Closed action-643.
action-644?
<trackbot> action-644 -- Richard Ishida to Add the language use
case to string meta article -- due 2017-08-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[17]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/644
[17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/644
close action-644
<trackbot> Closed action-644.
info share
[18]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017A
ug/0018.html
[18]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Aug/0018.html
richard: advanced publishing lab set up
... links have info
... using jlreq as a source for some of the work they do
... hopefully doing gap analysis and looking at things that
need to be priortized and worked on
addison: possiblity of contributing upates to jlreq?
richard: hoping that might happen, floated idea
... want to form a task force at w3c at some point
... to make gap analysis happen, probably not until next year
<r12a>
[19]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/language-matrix.htm
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[19] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/language-matrix.html
richard: been thinking about things related to how we handle
requirements side of stuff
... motivated by discussions about improving funding, etc. for
i18n
... one of the question is: can we not say the top 100
languages in the world
... these are supported at level x or y
... these not supported, etc.
... playing with ideas
... not straightforward
... sometimes there's only one feature broken
... sometimes the language but not the dialects
... language in 2 scripts, etc.
... which tech css, html, etc.
... all those problems, but seems like interesting exercise
... above link is early mock up of what it could look like
... colors indicate ability to use language on the web
... throw that out in case anyone has ideas
... if you scroll down to Javanese
... link there is to a mockup of gap analysis
... type in description of issues if any
... could get input that way
... also occured as a better way to do TF work
... better than trying to document how script works
... maybe start with gap analysis, quicker
... and then doc requirements to fill gaps
... any thoughts?
jck: one comment, need to handle carefully the choice of
languages
bert: is this for working groups or for content authors?
richard: this is from jeff jaffe's idea to some degree
... original impetus, but from me, I would hope this would
provoke people to work on gaps
... come to grips with gaps
... probably need to be tech specific
... page on javanese for example is on html/css
... for people who want to use on the web
... could be ordinary users
... but also define advanced users, as defined by speakers
... like dealing with paged media, such as ebooks
... covers a range of people
radar and active work review
[20]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
[20] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
[21]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
[21] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
[22]https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/2945
[22] https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/2945
issue title: Hinting at a translation language for outgoing
links
the issue title: Hinting at a translation language for outgoing
links
richard: links from an Indian page to an English article,
browser may not be set to request their language
... wouldn't it be good if content-author could put in a tag
that says "translate this content to language xxx"
addison: that would result in an Accept-Language header?
richard: they haven't talked about that bit
... plenty of cases where it's not a good idea
... how could you know what language I prefer to read the page
in?
addison: probably want options for "in the language of this
page" and "in the language my browser it set to"
richard: a lot of browsers are set wrong
... make it easier to use language settings in browsers
addison: opposite of what browser vendors have been doing
<scribe> ACTION: addison: remind working group to read whatwg
html issue 2945 for discussion next telecon [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-minutes.html#action01
<trackbot> Created ACTION-645 - Remind working group to read
whatwg html issue 2945 for discussion next telecon [on Addison
Phillips - due 2017-08-31].
string-meta
[24]https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/
[24] https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/
richard: some descriptions of things that don't work. do we
need to add?
addison: yes
richard: sent a bunch of comments in a pull request
addison: will review
<r12a>
[25]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/strings-and-bidi
/index.en
[25]
https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/strings-and-bidi/index.en
richard: strings and bidi article
... can take an action
... been out for wide review, should we publish
strings and bidi article
addison: any objections to publishing"
<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish strings-and-bidi article
[recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[26] http://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-minutes.html#action02
<trackbot> Created ACTION-646 - Publish strings-and-bidi
article [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-08-31].
richard: will publish panels/cards as images (alas!)
addison: have the html source somewhere?
richard: try to figure it out, "see how it works in your
browser"
... wanted to do this for months, perhaps years
... gather all the issues in one place
... if you think of other issues, please let me know!!
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: remind working group to read whatwg html
issue 2945 for discussion next telecon [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: publish strings-and-bidi article
[recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[27] http://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-minutes.html#action01
[28] http://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-minutes.html#action02
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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