- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 17:30:06 +0100
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
https://www.w3.org/2017/03/30-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
30 Mar 2017
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Mar/0035.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/30-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
r12a, addison, fantasai, Najib
Regrets
Felix, Steven
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]Radar
5. [9]HTML WG wants to close issue 470
6. [10]String in WHATWG
7. [11]Content Model for Ruby Markup?
8. [12]Can we publish Approaches to full justification
9. [13]Support for bidi in strings
10. [14]AOB?
* [15]Summary of Action Items
* [16]Summary of Resolutions
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trackbot, prepare teleconference
<scribe> ScribeNick: addison
Agenda
Action Items
[17]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[17] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-596?
<trackbot> action-596 -- Addison Phillips to Adjust the agenda
to reflect use of uk time for meeting and update links to
dateandtime -- due 2017-03-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/596
[18] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/596
close action-596
<trackbot> Closed action-596.
action-600?
<trackbot> action-600 -- Addison Phillips to Prepare and submit
encoding refresh -- due 2017-03-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[19]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/600
[19] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/600
action-604?
<trackbot> action-604 -- Richard Ishida to Move the encoding
tracking table to github so addison can update it -- due
2017-03-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/604
[20] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/604
close action-604
<trackbot> Closed action-604.
action-605?
<trackbot> action-605 -- Richard Ishida to Checks status of
svg2 comments -- due 2017-03-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[21]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/605
[21] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/605
richard: all still open
... svg work seems on hiatus
close action-605
<trackbot> Closed action-605.
action-606?
<trackbot> action-606 -- Richard Ishida to Tell travis to go
ahead removing bidi controls text from html5 and whatwg -- due
2017-03-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[22]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/606
[22] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/606
close action-606
<trackbot> Closed action-606.
Info Share
<r12a>
[23]https://www.w3.org/International/tests/#css3-text-decor
[23] https://www.w3.org/International/tests/#css3-text-decor
richard: now have two sets of tests for test decoration
... a couple need some word tweaking
... line below "a bit lower" hard to test
... tests now there focused on i18n stuff
... a few exploratory tests
... note in spec says JP different from ZH
... put some exploratory for what I think should happen to
mongolian
... writing tests takes time
... figure out how to write more efficiently
... took time to create a system to generate tests
... first fruit of that effort
... assertions still use same text as tests, etc.
fantasai: just switched to using WPT repo
richard: contribute our tests to platform
... this is a mechanism for how I create the files
fantasai: as far as assertion and instructions
... usually quite different
... text decoration sometimes have identical text for both
... pass condition can be more abstract, not useful assertion
richard stuck in properties and values automatically
scribe: instructions are "test passes if"
... and then may add something like "this is what happense for
e.g. Japanese chars"
... not perfect but okay maybe?
<fantasai> CSSWG is meeting in Tokyo mid-April :)
Radar
[24]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
[24] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
HTML WG wants to close issue 470
[25]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017M
ar/0039.html
[25]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Mar/0039.html
[26]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/164
[26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/164
okay by me
String in WHATWG
[27]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2017J
anMar/0059.html
[27]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2017JanMar/0059.html
[28]https://infra.spec.whatwg.org/#primitive-data-types
[28] https://infra.spec.whatwg.org/#primitive-data-types
Content Model for Ruby Markup?
richard: make a work item?
... ttml is defining how ruby should work in their spec
... only slightly differently than others
... not the syntax, but the objects and how they relate
... we have a content model in ruby annotation spec
... have one in html
... and css ruby spec, which expects some stuff like tabular
layout
... same ?? with ITS and webvtt
... would be nice to produce a document that says what elements
you need and relationship?
addison: new version of ruby annotation spec??
richard: not sure
fantasai: happy to review
Can we publish Approaches to full justification
<najib> Yes
<r12a>
[29]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/typography/justi
fication.en
[29]
https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/typography/justification.en
richard: publish as an article
... no objections?
najib: put a comment about tatweel
... it gives a better result
... gave some explanation
... tatweel is only possible for simple fonts
... not really an implementation of kashida
addison: changes required?
najib: no, just confirming what richard wrote
... mentioned this in ALReq
<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish Approaches to Full
Justification as an article [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/30-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[30] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/30-i18n-minutes.html#action01
<trackbot> Created ACTION-607 - Publish approaches to full
justification as an article [on Richard Ishida - due
2017-04-06].
Support for bidi in strings
<najib> [31]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/json-bidi
[31] https://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/json-bidi
<r12a>
[32]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/string-base-directi
on.html
[32]
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/string-base-direction.html
<r12a> add "we're seeing problems with this in more and more
specs"
<r12a> add point that you should not have to use metadata
always, only if first strong doesn't work
<scribe> ACTION: addison: send richard comments on
string-base-direction document [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/30-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[33] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/30-i18n-minutes.html#action02
<trackbot> Created ACTION-608 - Send richard comments on
string-base-direction document [on Addison Phillips - due
2017-04-06].
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: send richard comments on
string-base-direction document [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/30-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: publish Approaches to Full Justification
as an article [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/30-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[34] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/30-i18n-minutes.html#action02
[35] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/30-i18n-minutes.html#action01
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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