[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2017-03-09

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            Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

09 Mar 2017

    [2]Agenda

       [2] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Mar/0004.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Addison, Richard, Steve, JcK

    Regrets
    Chair
           Addison Phillips

    Scribe
           addison

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]Agenda
          2. [6]Action Items
          3. [7]Info Share
          4. [8]Radar Review
          5. [9]What Time Is This Meeting At, Spring Edition
          6. [10]publish the vertical text article
          7. [11]Payment Request API request concerning lang/dir in
             non-markup contexts
          8. [12]new justification-by-script article
          9. [13]TTML (and other) review
         10. [14]Encoding refresh needed
      * [15]Summary of Action Items
      * [16]Summary of Resolutions
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    trackbot, prepare teleconference

    <scribe> ScribeNick: addison

Agenda

Action Items

    [17]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

      [17] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

    action-553?

    <trackbot> action-553 -- Addison Phillips to Work with richard
    to develop a pros/cons document describing the different
    bidi-in-json handling proposals -- due 2016-09-29 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [18]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/553

      [18] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/553

    action-578?

    <trackbot> action-578 -- Richard Ishida to Write to aharon and
    mati about the whatwg bidi text issue -- due 2016-12-22 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [19]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/578

      [19] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/578

    close action-578

    <trackbot> Closed action-578.

    action-590?

    <trackbot> action-590 -- Addison Phillips to Follow up on html
    issue 343 wording and reopen if necessary -- due 2017-02-09 --
    OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [20]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/590

      [20] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/590

    close action-590

    <trackbot> Closed action-590.

    action-591?

    <trackbot> action-591 -- Richard Ishida to Re-check letter
    spacing in css-text issues for closure -- due 2017-02-09 --
    OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [21]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/591

      [21] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/591

    action-594?

    <trackbot> action-594 -- Addison Phillips to Reply to marcos
    caceres email and list his question as a topic for next
    teleconference -- due 2017-03-02 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [22]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/594

      [22] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/594

    close action-594

    <trackbot> Closed action-594.

Info Share

    jck: IESG signed off on new URN document
    ... shouldn't have any i18n issues of interest to this group
    ... take it off our queue

    <r12a> [23]https://www.w3.org/International/layout

      [23] https://www.w3.org/International/layout

    richard: working on the site a bit
    ... one thing I did today-ish
    ... was updated layout and typography page
    ... maybe change title to "requirements"??
    ... includes sections about LREQs, gap analysis docs, etc.

    <r12a> [24]https://www.w3.org/International

      [24] https://www.w3.org/International

    richard: improved I think
    ... get help panel split by types of folks

    <r12a> [25]https://www.w3.org/International/help#contentauth

      [25] https://www.w3.org/International/help#contentauth

    <r12a> [26]https://www.w3.org/International/about

      [26] https://www.w3.org/International/about

    richard: check the contact us part of that
    ... points to home page for detail
    ... no longer has long section on mailing lists
    ... get from WG home pages

    <r12a> [27]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/i18n-wg/

      [27] https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/i18n-wg/

    richard: WG home page, has general links

    <r12a> [28]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/i18n-wg/

      [28] https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/i18n-wg/

    richard: type samples repo is now is ready for advertising to
    others

    <r12a> [29]https://github.com/w3c/type-samples

      [29] https://github.com/w3c/type-samples

    <r12a> [30]https://w3c.github.io/type-samples/

      [30] https://w3c.github.io/type-samples/

    richard: that's the github and the index

    <r12a> [31]http://w3c.github.io/typography/

      [31] http://w3c.github.io/typography/

    richard: did some work on it yesterday
    ... beefed up significantly
    ... added a few extra sections like numbers and text
    ... and (something) style
    ... links to customer information
    ... type samples link

Radar Review

    [32]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

      [32] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

    [33]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

      [33] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

    richard: added some stuff to specdev
    ... might want to check
    ... vertical text and ruby and typographic stuff
    ... threw in a few controversial things, added text to mention
    that

    <r12a> [34]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/projects/1

      [34] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/projects/1

    richard: put a link to article pipeline, may want to review
    from time to time

    addison: will add to our agenda

What Time Is This Meeting At, Spring Edition

    follow UK time

    <scribe> ACTION: addison: adjust the agenda to reflect use of
    UK time for meeting and update links to dateandtime [recorded
    in [35]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

      [35] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action01

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-596 - Adjust the agenda to reflect
    use of uk time for meeting and update links to dateandtime [on
    Addison Phillips - due 2017-03-16].

publish the vertical text article

    <r12a>
    [36]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/vertical-text.en

      [36] https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/vertical-text.en

    richard: have one remaining comment on way arabic text runs
    ... plan to punt to CSS
    ... resolve to publish?

    <Steve_Atkin> +1

    +1

    <Klensin> +1

    <r12a> +1

    <david> +1

    so resolved

    <scribe> ACTION: richard: publish vertical text article
    [recorded in
    [37]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

      [37] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action02

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-597 - Publish vertical text article
    [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-03-16].

Payment Request API request concerning lang/dir in non-markup
contexts

    richard: he's asking if they should have dir properties in json
    ... don't think we've taken a final decision on that

    addison: definitely not, since we're working on that

    richard: link to existing document

    addison: "yes, you need direction, but don't have a finished
    cookbook yet"

    richard: tend to think separate field is the simpler thing if
    acceptable

    <scribe> ACTION: addison: respond to marcos with summary fo
    current state of bidi-in-json [recorded in
    [38]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

      [38] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action03

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-598 - Respond to marcos with summary
    fo current state of bidi-in-json [on Addison Phillips - due
    2017-03-16].

new justification-by-script article

    richard: take to wide review, fantasai is happy with that

    <r12a>
    [39]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/typography/justi
    fication.en

      [39] 
https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/typography/justification.en

    any objections to wide review?

    (chair hears none)

    so resolved

    <scribe> ACTION: richard: publish justification for wide review
    [recorded in
    [40]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

      [40] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action04

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-599 - Publish justification for wide
    review [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-03-16].

TTML (and other) review

    [41]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/

      [41] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/

    [42]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/358

      [42] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/358

    writing mode stuff based on old version of writing-modes

    has sideways-lr and sideways-rl

    rotates the box rather than changing the layout

    make matching css the comment

    [43]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/357

      [43] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/357

    [44]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/359

      [44] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/359

    [45]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/356

      [45] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/356

    [46]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/355

      [46] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/355

    (wrong link)

    [47]http://w3c.github.io/ttml2/spec/ttml2.html#style-attribute-
    textCombine

      [47] 
http://w3c.github.io/ttml2/spec/ttml2.html#style-attribute-textCombine

    addison: could be used with upright to make tate-chu-yoko, but
    you need to rotate the text still?

    richard: vertical text article has an example
    ... in CSS knows that's what you're trying to do

    needs clarification

    [48]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/354

      [48] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/354

    [49]https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/275

      [49] https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/275

Encoding refresh needed

    <scribe> ACTION: addison: prepare and submit Encoding refresh
    [recorded in
    [50]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action05]

      [50] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action05

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-600 - Prepare and submit encoding
    refresh [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-03-16].

    richard: generate in bikeshed and submit through echidna
    ... need to look at changes

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: addison: adjust the agenda to reflect use of UK
    time for meeting and update links to dateandtime [recorded in
    [51]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
    [NEW] ACTION: addison: prepare and submit Encoding refresh
    [recorded in
    [52]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action05]
    [NEW] ACTION: addison: respond to marcos with summary fo
    current state of bidi-in-json [recorded in
    [53]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
    [NEW] ACTION: richard: publish justification for wide review
    [recorded in
    [54]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
    [NEW] ACTION: richard: publish vertical text article [recorded
    in [55]http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

      [51] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action01
      [52] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action05
      [53] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action03
      [54] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action04
      [55] http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action02

Summary of Resolutions

    [End of minutes]

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