- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:12:15 +0000
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
https://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
26 Jan 2017
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Jan/0009.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
r12a, Addison, Steve, Koji, JohnO, David, jck,
Najib(IRC)
Regrets
Felix
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]Radar and Active Work Review
5. [9]CSS WG proposal to ignore line-height: normal when
rhythmic sizing is enabled
6. [10]Github repo activity digest
7. [11]International text layout and typography index
8. [12]For internal review: Styling vertical Chinese,
Japanese, Korean and Mongolian text
9. [13]Definition of String in WHATWG
* [14]Summary of Action Items
* [15]Summary of Resolutions
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Agenda
Action Items
[16]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[16] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-580?
<trackbot> action-580 -- Richard Ishida to Set up two repos for
felix's documents from its for final publication as note -- due
2017-01-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[17]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/580
[17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/580
close action-580
<trackbot> Closed action-580.
Info Share
Radar and Active Work Review
[18]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
[18] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
<r12a>
[19]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2017Jan
Mar/0012.html
[19]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2017JanMar/0012.html
richard: jumped into ttml2, jumped straight into ruby section
... so if you look elsewhere........
... many issues in ruby
<r12a>
<r12a> The horizontal review should focus only on the new
features
<r12a> introduced in TTML2.
<r12a> Please refer to the section for changes between Timed
Text Markup Language (TTML) Version 1 (TTML1) and Version 2
(TTML2).
<r12a>
[20]https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-ttml2-20161117/#changes-from-
ttml1-vocabulary
[20]
https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-ttml2-20161117/#changes-from-ttml1-vocabulary
<r12a> ]]
addison: please volunteer on the member list for sections as
you review them
[21]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017J
an/0017.html
[21]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Jan/0017.html
CSS WG proposal to ignore line-height: normal when rhythmic sizing is
enabled
[22]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/938
[22] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/938
koji: proposal from florian to change line-height:normal
... would lose ability to set line height based on font metrics
... may affect some languages/fonts that have very tall scripts
... proposal is to make line-height:normal to be line-height:1
... there are some scripts that stack vertically or are very
tall
(citings of Tibetan, Myanmar, Arabic)
scribe: when set to a number, it depends on font
... normal uses font metrics not the font
... so line to line spacing can be different
... florians proposal is to avoid font metrics based line
height because Latin font users have bad experience
... do non-latin script rely more on normal/font metrics than
others??
normal is default
lines never overlap as a result, but leading inconsistent
if glyphs too tall, lines overlap, when you use numbers
<r12a> نشاط التدويل، W3C نشاط التدويل، W3C نشاط التدويل، W3C
نشاط التدويل، W3C نشاط التدويل، W3C نشاط التدويل، W3C
རྒྱལ་སྤྱིར་བསྒྱུར་བའི་ལས་དོན། W3C རྒྱལ་སྤྱིར་བསྒྱུར་བའི་ལས་དོན།
W3C རྒྱལ་སྤྱིར་བསྒྱུར་བའི་ལས་དོན། W3C
རྒྱལ་སྤྱིར་བསྒྱུར་བའི་ལས་དོན། W3C
richard: trying quickly, Tibetan and Arabic break if
line-height:1
mixed script produces better results when it can adjust
richard: there are text examples at following link
... might be useful
<r12a> [23]http://r12a.github.io/scripts/phrases
[23] http://r12a.github.io/scripts/phrases
koji: can prepare response using these samples
... will bring back if not easy to conclude
Github repo activity digest
richard: sent some emails about this
... more I thought that this is useful
... suggesting that we hit www-international issue when an
issue is created
... or if we raised on someone's repo and it gets the i18n
label
... and winter when they close
... but no information flowing
... that is useful in keeping traffic down
... but also means that they get notifications that they might
not care about
... have to subscribe to the issue itself
... also folks reply by email rather than github, creating
threading problems
... so propose to send digest saying effectively: here are the
new issues, the closed issues, and the ones with traffic
... thinking daily digest
... two or more digest is possible
<scribe> ACTION: richard: send note to www-international
announcing switching to github digests and set up the digests
[recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[24] http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-584 - Send note to www-international
announcing switching to github digests and set up the digests
[on Richard Ishida - due 2017-02-02].
International text layout and typography index
<r12a> [25]http://w3c.github.io/typography/
[25] http://w3c.github.io/typography/
<r12a>
[26]https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/typography/justi
fication.en
[26]
https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/typography/justification.en
richard: suggesting we take the differently formatted material
on justification and put in another place
<najib> +1
addison: +1
no objections noted
<david> +1
<scribe> ACTION: richard: move the justification materials to
separate article and point to it from typography document
[recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[27] http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-585 - Move the justification
materials to separate article and point to it from typography
document [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-02-02].
For internal review: Styling vertical Chinese, Japanese, Korean and
Mongolian text
<r12a>
[28]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/vertical-text.en
[28] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/vertical-text.en
richard: updated a bit
... new section on "default character orientation"
... some small changes and a few more comments to deal with
Definition of String in WHATWG
[29]https://github.com/whatwg/infra/issues/1
[29] https://github.com/whatwg/infra/issues/1
<scribe> ACTION: addison: summarize whatwg string definition
and recommend changes if needed [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[30] http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-586 - Summarize whatwg string
definition and recommend changes if needed [on Addison Phillips
- due 2017-02-02].
<r12a>
<r12a> Code Point. (1) Any value in the Unicode codespace; that
is, the range of integers from 0 to 10FFFF16. (See definition
D10 in Section 3.4, Characters and Encoding.) Not all code
points are assigned to encoded characters. See code point type.
(2) A value, or position, for a character, in any coded
character set.
<r12a> ]]
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: summarize whatwg string definition and
recommend changes if needed [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: move the justification materials to
separate article and point to it from typography document
[recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: send note to www-international
announcing switching to github digests and set up the digests
[recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[31] http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action03
[32] http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action02
[33] http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action01
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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