[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2017-06-15

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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

15 Jun 2017

    [2]Agenda

       [2] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Jun/0002.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Addison, David, JcK, Richard, andrewc, JohnO, fantasai

    Regrets
           Bert

    Chair
           Addison Phillips

    Scribe
           addison

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]Agenda
          2. [6]Action Items
          3. [7]Info Share
          4. [8]Radar
          5. [9]Semantic Sensor Network Ontology (review)
          6. [10][webidl] Serialization of natural language (TAG
             issue 178)
          7. [11]AOB?
      * [12]Summary of Action Items
      * [13]Summary of Resolutions
      __________________________________________________________

    previous minutes
    [14]https://www.w3.org/2017/06/08-i18n-minutes.html

      [14] https://www.w3.org/2017/06/08-i18n-minutes.html

    <scribe> ScribeNick: addison

Agenda

Action Items

    [15]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

      [15] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

    richard: encoding tests, ran again. suspicion that things are
    changing
    ... ran tests for FF nightly, chrome, canary
    ... significant progress, in good part due to Henri finishing
    his work
    ... FF much more conformant
    ... identified a bunch of issues with the tests
    ... need to find time to fix the tests
    ... Henri has reviewed and signed off several other tests

    action-615?

    <trackbot> action-615 -- Addison Phillips to Finalize floating
    time article for publication -- due 2017-05-04 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/615

      [16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/615

    close action-615

    <trackbot> Closed action-615.

    action-622?

    <trackbot> action-622 -- Richard Ishida to Forward poe/ordl
    comments on behalf of bert -- due 2017-06-08 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [17]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/622

      [17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/622

    addison to do 622

    action-623?

    <trackbot> action-623 -- Addison Phillips to Reach out to
    webidl regarding tag-issue-178 -- due 2017-06-15 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [18]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/623

      [18] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/623

    close action-623

    <trackbot> Closed action-623.

    action-624?

    <trackbot> action-624 -- Richard Ishida to Publish
    qa-floating-time for wide review -- due 2017-06-15 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [19]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/624

      [19] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/624

    close action-624

    <trackbot> Closed action-624.

Info Share

    TPAC registration reminder

    richard: unicode 10 to be released in about a week
    ... look out for it
    ... in the meantime

    <r12a>
    [20]https://r12a.github.io/uniview/?block=soyombo&char=11AA0

      [20] https://r12a.github.io/uniview/?block=soyombo&char=11AA0

    richard: can play with unicode 10 in uniview
    ... link above includes soyombo block and a character in that
    block

    david: where is soyombo from?

    richard: central asia
    ... haven't linked to the script links page
    ... hope to do soon
    ... hoping to publish full text of standard at same time as
    data files (for the first time)

    <r12a> [21]https://r12a.github.io/uniview/?block=cham

      [21] https://r12a.github.io/uniview/?block=cham

Radar

    [22]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

      [22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

    fantasai: box align on the list?

    addison: send me a link and I'll put it on

    [23]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

      [23] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

    richard: they closed the international email addresses issue
    ... we asked chaals to talk to us but it didn't come off
    ... may need to fish out/reopen
    ... should probably try to put a comment on the html issue list

    <scribe> ACTION: addison: check status of HTML EAI issue and
    reopen as necessary [recorded in
    [24]http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

      [24] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action01

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-625 - Check status of html eai issue
    and reopen as necessary [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-06-22].

    richard: getting a few questions from edx javascript course

Semantic Sensor Network Ontology (review)

    <scribe> ACTION: addison: notify semantic sensor network
    ontology folks that review is complete [recorded in
    [25]http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

      [25] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action02

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-626 - Notify semantic sensor network
    ontology folks that review is complete [on Addison Phillips -
    due 2017-06-22].

[webidl] Serialization of natural language (TAG issue 178)

    pull together core doc, then requirements for specs

    <fantasai> [26]https://www.w3.org/TR/css-align/

      [26] https://www.w3.org/TR/css-align/

    richard: include intro material into specdev?

    <scribe> ACTION: addison: pull together "requirements for
    language and direction information in data formats" draft
    [recorded in
    [27]http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

      [27] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action03

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-627 - Pull together "requirements for
    language and direction information in data formats" draft [on
    Addison Phillips - due 2017-06-22].

    <scribe> ACTION: addison: send to list the documents to be
    combined [recorded in
    [28]http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

      [28] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action04

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-628 - Send to list the documents to
    be combined [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-06-22].

AOB?

    fantasai: overview of css-align

    addison: areas of interest?

    fantasai: two sets of properties, logically derived

    <r12a> [29]https://www.w3.org/TR/css-align/

      [29] https://www.w3.org/TR/css-align/

    fantasai: sensitive to writing-mode
    ... one thing that's tricky
    ... start/end are relative to containing block
    ... align-self uses containing block's direction
    ... that way start for list is to the list, not the list item
    ... also self-start/end
    ... baseline alignment is very hairy
    ... using the "dominant baseline" by default
    ... using container baseline, hanging off that. that's tricky
    ... other thing is opposing writing-modes
    ... if you have mirrored writing modes, allow first vs. last

    addison: (pines for illustrations)

    fantasai: haven't figured out how to make easy to understand

    addison: timeline?

    fantasai: pretty soon?
    ... can fold in comments post-CR

    richard: ttml and imsc folks, can anyone pitch in on
    discussions

    jck: can you send summary to list?

    richard: putting link in

    <fantasai> [30]https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1171

      [30] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1171

    fantasai: is there a mode break-all for punctuation but keeps
    letters together

    <r12a> John (and others) look at
    [31]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/ under TTML and
    IMSC

      [31] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/

    <fantasai> Is there a mode where kinsoku rules are relaxed
    entirely, but there exist restrictions on letters?

    don't know one, but might still exist?

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: addison: check status of HTML EAI issue and
    reopen as necessary [recorded in
    [32]http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
    [NEW] ACTION: addison: notify semantic sensor network ontology
    folks that review is complete [recorded in
    [33]http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
    [NEW] ACTION: addison: pull together "requirements for language
    and direction information in data formats" draft [recorded in
    [34]http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
    [NEW] ACTION: addison: send to list the documents to be
    combined [recorded in
    [35]http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

      [32] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action01
      [33] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action02
      [34] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action03
      [35] http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action04

Summary of Resolutions

    [End of minutes]

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