- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 17:49:45 +0100
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
https://www.w3.org/2017/05/25-i18n-minutes.html text version follows: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference 25 May 2017 [2]Agenda [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017May/0029.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2017/05/25-i18n-irc Attendees Present addison, andrewc, r12a, JohnOC, John, O'Conner, JcK Regrets Steven Chair Addison Phillips Scribe addison Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Agenda 2. [6]Action Items 3. [7]Info Share 4. [8]Reviews 5. [9]IMSC pending comments 6. [10]HTML 5.2 and EAI 7. [11]AOB? * [12]Summary of Action Items * [13]Summary of Resolutions __________________________________________________________ <scribe> ScribeNick: addison [14]https://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/96 [14] https://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/96 [aphillip]: add this issue to HTML5 bug 11579 <r12a> [15]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11579 [15] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11579 <r12a> [16]https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/881 [16] https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/881 [17]https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/881/commits/d54c6b94c0d84a a09dac5fed3c1e7b075d46ee05 [17] https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/881/commits/d54c6b94c0d84aa09dac5fed3c1e7b075d46ee05 <r12a> [18]https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/845 [18] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/845 Agenda Action Items [19]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open [19] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open action-552? <trackbot> action-552 -- Addison Phillips to Write to TAG about potential for a serialization form for natural language strings to address issues with dir and lang -- due 2016-09-29 -- OPEN <trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/552 [20] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/552 close action-552 <trackbot> Closed action-552. action-612? <trackbot> action-612 -- Addison Phillips to Create a bidi/lang recommendations document in order to go to tag -- due 2017-04-27 -- OPEN <trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/612 [21] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/612 close action-612 <trackbot> Closed action-612. action-615? <trackbot> action-615 -- Addison Phillips to Finalize floating time article for publication -- due 2017-05-04 -- OPEN <trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/615 [22] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/615 action-616? <trackbot> action-616 -- Addison Phillips to Update unicode-xml to indicate current status -- due 2017-05-11 -- OPEN <trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/616 [23] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/616 action-616 <trackbot> action-616 -- Addison Phillips to Update unicode-xml to indicate current status -- due 2017-05-11 -- OPEN <trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/616 [24] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/616 close action-616 <trackbot> Closed action-616. <scribe> ACTION: richard: check unicode-xml publication via echidna [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2017/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action01] [25] http://www.w3.org/2017/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-620 - Check unicode-xml publication via echidna [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-06-01]. action-619? <trackbot> action-619 -- Addison Phillips to Notify html that we completed 5.2 and don't have comments -- due 2017-05-25 -- OPEN <trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/619 [26] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/619 close action-619 <trackbot> Closed action-619. Info Share Reviews [27]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1 [27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1 [28]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects [28] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects [29]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/ [29] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/ richard: curious about hebrew progress <r12a> [30]https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/native- user-interfaces#windowheader [30] https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/native-user-interfaces#windowheader richard: page title tests ... if you apply dir to a title element ... does that get carried over in the tab or whatever ... FF swapped behavior ... issue raised on whatwg list ... why don't we just use first strong ... because that's what browsers do just now ... trying to explain the issues addison: let's write code to sniff it when we have the information right there in the document // irony <r12a> [31]https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/2648 [31] https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/2648 richard: that's the whatwg issue <r12a> [32]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/416 [32] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/416 richard: thats our tracker issue IMSC pending comments <r12a> [33]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/413 [33] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/413 addison: I'd take out "as specified in" <r12a> [34]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/415 [34] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/415 <JohnO> must drop out now for another mtg. apologies. <scribe> ACTION: addison: file additional issue on imsc related to font selection and "recommended character sets" section [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2017/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action02] [35] http://www.w3.org/2017/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-621 - File additional issue on imsc related to font selection and "recommended character sets" section [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-06-01]. HTML 5.2 and EAI <r12a> [36]https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/538 [36] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/538 <r12a> [37]https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/881 [37] https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/881 [38]https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/881/commits/d54c6b94c0d84a a09dac5fed3c1e7b075d46ee05 [38] https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/881/commits/d54c6b94c0d84aa09dac5fed3c1e7b075d46ee05 jck: EAI says the localpart must be UTF-8 ... and unencoded by punycode ... the domain part is expected to be in UTF-8, although punycode cannot be prevented ... if I'm running an email system and use xn-- in a name, nothing stops that richard: html says "left hand side we'll do later" ... and save/accept as IDN jck: probably a bad idea for a technical reason ... there are two small vendors who have extensive DNS stuff for local use (distinct from public) ... there is an RFC, conversion to A-labels are as close to DNS lookup as possible ... that would be irrelevant if the companies were not AAPL and MSFT richard: remember in 2014 ... there was an email system in KSA ... which was entirely in Arabic, so this wouldn't help them jck: there are deployed EAI systems in Russia, India ... China ... non-ascii localparts ... which could be just a few people <r12a> [39]https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/845 [39] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/845 addison: one reason this didn't go in html50 was that much of the Web expects ascii-based email forms jck: IDNA2008 is completely reversible ... but not utr46 ... if they do conversion on left hand part, breaks smtp AOB? <Klensin> FWIW, the RFC that describes thjat Apple/Microsoft local use of non-IDNA, none=ASCII IDNs is RFC 6055 <r12a> ok, chaals, i'll ask addison to create a summary <Klensin> If I'm copied on the summary I may be able to fill in any needed additional details. Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: addison: file additional issue on imsc related to font selection and "recommended character sets" section [recorded in [40]http://www.w3.org/2017/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: richard: check unicode-xml publication via echidna [recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2017/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action01] [40] http://www.w3.org/2017/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action02 [41] http://www.w3.org/2017/05/25-i18n-minutes.html#action01 Summary of Resolutions [End of minutes]
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