- From: <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:17:30 +0100
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
https://www.w3.org/2016/04/07-i18n-minutes.html
summary:
- WG agreed to use Echidna for publishing in future
- some discussion of process implications of using echidna
- request for review of thread on quote marks in multilingual quotations
- discussion on focus of charmod-norm
text version follows:
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
07 Apr 2016
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Apr/0011.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2016/04/07-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Felix, Addison, Richard, JcK
Regrets
Steve, JcK
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]process stuff
5. [9]The "Quotation Thing"
6. [10]Charmod
7. [11]AOB?
* [12]Summary of Action Items
* [13]Summary of Resolutions
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<r12a> [14]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
[14] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
Agenda
Action Items
[15]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[15] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-174?
<trackbot> action-174 -- Addison Phillips to Write article
about floating times in HTML -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/174
[16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/174
<r12a> [17]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[17] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[18]https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/FloatingTime
[18] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/FloatingTime
action-461?
<trackbot> action-461 -- Richard Ishida to Re-read issue-80 and
evaluate whether to reopen as a github issue or not -- due
2015-09-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[19]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/461
[19] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/461
richard: should mark as closed
... looked at another thing
richard: wrote to ebook list and www-international about quotes
<r12a>
[20]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2016
Apr/
[20] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2016Apr/
<r12a>
[21]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2016
Apr/0022.html
[21]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2016Apr/0022.html
close action-461
<trackbot> Closed action-461.
action-503?
<trackbot> action-503 -- Addison Phillips to Add unicode-xml to
project radar -- due 2016-04-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[22]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/503
[22] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/503
close action-503
<trackbot> Closed action-503.
Info Share
felix: share progress xliff/its integration
... xliff 2.1 finalizing in june
... supports its 2.0
... ITS-IG has helped move forward
process stuff
<r12a>
[23]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016A
pr/0005.html
[23]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Apr/0005.html
richard: echidna could work for docs not on req
... can publish a Note as a Note, but not the WDs :-(
... maybe in 2-3 weeks could do that
... meantime need WG agreement to publish using echidna
addison: (waxes enthusiastic)
addison: proposal to adopt echidna-based publishing to TR for
all WG documents from now on
<fsasaki> big +1
<David> +1
<Addison> +1
<r12a> big +1
addison: (chair hat) so approved, since there were no
objections raised over email either during the past week
richard: send your comments by github and against latest dated
version in TR
... can't produce a dated version in github we thought
... but possible to do for a specific commit
<fsasaki> [sorry, have to go, for this topic either way is fine
for me]
richard: 2 scenarios
... for charmod and clreq
... TR far behind github
... text is more up to date
... closer to issues list
... other scenario is unicode-xml
... it's published as a Note and martin is making edits
... very messy
addison: only use TR for like FPWD or Last Call?
richard: well, the unicode-xml might be a different case
The "Quotation Thing"
<r12a>
[24]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2016
Apr/0013.html
[24]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2016Apr/0013.html
richard: what do you do whne you have multiple nested quotes in
multiple languages
... clear if in one language
Mais Lucy répond: «Embrassez George de ma part - seulement une
fois. Dites-lui, ‹Embrouille.› ».
Mais Lucy répond: «Give George my love – once only. Tell him,
'Muddle.' ».
richard: sent do www-international and e-books
... consensus so far is "if you start the para in say French,
you use throughout"
... avoids confusion
<r12a>
[25]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2016
Apr/0022.html
[25]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2016Apr/0022.html
richard: just sent the above
... how do you actually make happen
... CSS and HTML don't produce this
... wanted to get you thinking about this
... what punct. goes where?
... "am I in a quotation" and then am I dealing with a q with a
lang
... if inside a quote and have a lang, then ignore it
... not quite sure how to do that in css yet
addison: agenda next week to discuss?
<scribe> ACTION: addison: remind group to study quotation mark
behavior for next call [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2016/04/07-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[26] http://www.w3.org/2016/04/07-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-506 - Remind group to study quotation
mark behavior for next call [on Addison Phillips - due
2016-04-14].
Charmod
richard: might have come through in my comments
... not sure, putting some ideas out for feedback
... starting to wonder if focus of document is clear
... talking about confusables, is a problem...
... but wondering how relevant
... is our focus on the syntactic elements rather than the text
content
... findtext is bigger labyrinth
... other question in my mind
... can see why users might expect visual vs. encoding
... some many languages where you can expect that
addison: (expounds at length)
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: remind group to study quotation mark
behavior for next call [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2016/04/07-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[27] http://www.w3.org/2016/04/07-i18n-minutes.html#action01
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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