- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 17:01:26 +0100
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2014/09/25-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
25 Sep 2014
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Sep/0017.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2014/09/25-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, Richard, Xiaoqian, Koji, Leandro
Regrets
David
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]RADAR
5. [9]What Time is This Meeting At?
6. [10]Chinese generic font family names in CSS
7. [11]Plans for Chinese Layout task force
8. [12]AOB?
* [13]Summary of Action Items
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agenda additions at
[14]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014S
ep/0019.html and
[15]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014S
ep/0020.html
[14]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Sep/0019.html
[15]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Sep/0020.html
Agenda
Action Items
[16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
close action-81
<trackbot> Closed action-81.
Info Share
addison: will be on holiday next week
... richard to host
... leandro to scribe
richard: mongolian is really hard
... I have a mongolian character picker that doesn't work
terribly well
... FF doesn't support vertical LR text
... and chrome supports it, but not in textarea or in tables
and such
... and mongolian characters with ZWJ produces different
results on different browsers
... need to write more writing-mode and other tests
xiaoqian: does counter styles support mongolian and tibetan?
<r12a>
[17]http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-predefined-counter-styles-2013
0725/
[17] http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-predefined-counter-styles-20130725/
richard: yes
xiaoqian: browser vendors interested in minority scripts, want
more examples
<r12a> [18]http://rishida.net/blog/
[18] http://rishida.net/blog/
richard: a few notes in my blog
... scroll down
... justificaiton, line breaking rules
... and working on a new entry which calls out features of
typography currently being worked on in CSS
... and asks people to consider whether they have problems with
those features
... points to the spec, to tests and to jlreq/ilreq etc
RADAR
[19]https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
[19] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
What Time is This Meeting At?
[20]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014S
ep/0018.html
[20]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Sep/0018.html
Option B "What we've been doing, sort of": 1500 UTC
midnight tokyo
koji: works for me
<scribe> ACTION: addison: send email to the group seeking
objections from non-attendees [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2014/09/25-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-346 - Send email to the group seeking
objections from non-attendees [on Addison Phillips - due
2014-10-02].
Chinese generic font family names in CSS
[22]https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Chinese_font_families
[22] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Chinese_font_families
richard: publishers in China
... serif, sans, fantasy, monospaced, etc.
... they have more font families than that (and different)
... also can't easily solve problem using downloading
... because the fonts are very large
... wrote wiki page to summarize
... probably affects JP and KO users also
... might need more categories?
... other scripts and publishing traditions need other styles
... what can we do about this?
... start discussion on CSS + CJK list
xiaoqian: described problem clearly
koji: interesting
... in japan most systems don't have many fonts
... can I confirm who the "customer" is? browser vendor? web
authors?
xiaoqian: digital publishers
koji: different from epub and web
... only four or five font families
... epub different: kindle or kobo have different fonts
<r12a> [23]http://rishida.net/scripts/fontlist/#chinese-t
[23] http://rishida.net/scripts/fontlist/#chinese-t
<r12a> [24]http://rishida.net/scripts/fontlist/#chinese-s
[24] http://rishida.net/scripts/fontlist/#chinese-s
<r12a> [25]http://rishida.net/scripts/fontlist/#japanese
[25] http://rishida.net/scripts/fontlist/#japanese
<scribe> ACTION: xiaoqian: ask for more input on the problem of
font family names [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2014/09/25-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-347 - Ask for more input on the
problem of font family names [on Xiaoqian Wu - due 2014-10-02].
xiaoqian: how will webfonts work for east asian languages?
koji: font subsetting makes them smaller, so not really 10 mb
... but data plans can be an issue
leandro: link to css spec is to wrong place
richard: will add some questions to the page as well
Plans for Chinese Layout task force
richard: watch for activity
<Leandro> Folks, I have to run to another meeting. Talk to you
next week.
AOB?
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: send email to the group seeking
objections from non-attendees [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2014/09/25-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: xiaoqian: ask for more input on the problem of
font family names [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2014/09/25-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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