[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2014-09-25


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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

25 Sep 2014



    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2014/09/25-i18n-irc


           Addison, Richard, Xiaoqian, Koji, Leandro


           Addison Phillips

           Addison Phillips


      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]Agenda
          2. [6]Action Items
          3. [7]Info Share
          4. [8]RADAR
          5. [9]What Time is This Meeting At?
          6. [10]Chinese generic font family names in CSS
          7. [11]Plans for Chinese Layout task force
          8. [12]AOB?
      * [13]Summary of Action Items

    agenda additions at
    ep/0019.html and



Action Items


      [16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

    close action-81

    <trackbot> Closed action-81.

Info Share

    addison: will be on holiday next week
    ... richard to host
    ... leandro to scribe

    richard: mongolian is really hard
    ... I have a mongolian character picker that doesn't work
    terribly well
    ... FF doesn't support vertical LR text
    ... and chrome supports it, but not in textarea or in tables
    and such
    ... and mongolian characters with ZWJ produces different
    results on different browsers
    ... need to write more writing-mode and other tests

    xiaoqian: does counter styles support mongolian and tibetan?


      [17] http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-predefined-counter-styles-20130725/

    richard: yes

    xiaoqian: browser vendors interested in minority scripts, want
    more examples

    <r12a> [18]http://rishida.net/blog/

      [18] http://rishida.net/blog/

    richard: a few notes in my blog
    ... scroll down
    ... justificaiton, line breaking rules
    ... and working on a new entry which calls out features of
    typography currently being worked on in CSS
    ... and asks people to consider whether they have problems with
    those features
    ... points to the spec, to tests and to jlreq/ilreq etc



      [19] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar

What Time is This Meeting At?



    Option B "What we've been doing, sort of": 1500 UTC

    midnight tokyo

    koji: works for me

    <scribe> ACTION: addison: send email to the group seeking
    objections from non-attendees [recorded in

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-346 - Send email to the group seeking
    objections from non-attendees [on Addison Phillips - due

Chinese generic font family names in CSS


      [22] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Chinese_font_families

    richard: publishers in China
    ... serif, sans, fantasy, monospaced, etc.
    ... they have more font families than that (and different)
    ... also can't easily solve problem using downloading
    ... because the fonts are very large
    ... wrote wiki page to summarize
    ... probably affects JP and KO users also
    ... might need more categories?
    ... other scripts and publishing traditions need other styles
    ... what can we do about this?
    ... start discussion on CSS + CJK list

    xiaoqian: described problem clearly

    koji: interesting
    ... in japan most systems don't have many fonts
    ... can I confirm who the "customer" is? browser vendor? web

    xiaoqian: digital publishers

    koji: different from epub and web
    ... only four or five font families
    ... epub different: kindle or kobo have different fonts

    <r12a> [23]http://rishida.net/scripts/fontlist/#chinese-t

      [23] http://rishida.net/scripts/fontlist/#chinese-t

    <r12a> [24]http://rishida.net/scripts/fontlist/#chinese-s

      [24] http://rishida.net/scripts/fontlist/#chinese-s

    <r12a> [25]http://rishida.net/scripts/fontlist/#japanese

      [25] http://rishida.net/scripts/fontlist/#japanese

    <scribe> ACTION: xiaoqian: ask for more input on the problem of
    font family names [recorded in

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-347 - Ask for more input on the
    problem of font family names [on Xiaoqian Wu - due 2014-10-02].

    xiaoqian: how will webfonts work for east asian languages?

    koji: font subsetting makes them smaller, so not really 10 mb
    ... but data plans can be an issue

    leandro: link to css spec is to wrong place

    richard: will add some questions to the page as well

Plans for Chinese Layout task force

    richard: watch for activity

    <Leandro> Folks, I have to run to another meeting. Talk to you
    next week.


Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: addison: send email to the group seeking
    objections from non-attendees [recorded in
    [NEW] ACTION: xiaoqian: ask for more input on the problem of
    font family names [recorded in

    [End of minutes]

Received on Thursday, 25 September 2014 16:01:55 UTC