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[Bug 25136] You have dropped support for encoding cp862!!

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 02:43:23 +0000
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https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25136

Martin Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> changed:

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--- Comment #19 from Martin Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> ---
(In reply to Leif Halvard Silli from comment #16)

> OK, that means that you require visual order. However, for CP862, visual
> order does not work cross browser.
> 
> To get it in visual order in a cross browser compatible way you should use
> "ISO-8869-8" rather than "DOS-862". Here is what you could do:

That should be iso-8859-8, not 8869. Same below.

> 1) Let your application convert each Hebrew letter to its numerical
> character reference equivalent. For example, convert Hebrew aleph into
> &#1488;

You can also convert it to the actual byte value, at least for those characters
in DOS-862 that are also in ISO-8859-8

> 2) Apply the charset label "ISO-8869-8" to the web page. 
>   (For example <meta charset="ISO-8869-8"/>)
> 
> 3) Make sure the dir="" attribute is set to "ltr": <html dir="ltr">.

Instead of this, I'd use CSS to apply the same styling as for <bdo dir='ltr'>:
direction: ltr;
unicode-bidi: bidi-override;


> RESULTS: The letters will display in *visual* order not only in Firefox but
> also in Safari and Chrome. In IE it might not give you visual order since
> visual order only works in quirks mode.

Given this data and the web pages are very old, my guess would be that they
result in quirks mode anyway. But I might be wrong.

> (Of course, you should rather use UTF-8. But then I guess you must first
> convert the text from visual to logical order, which sounds more
> complicated, to me.)

Yes.Converting from visual to logical order is impossible without intervention
from a human being understanding the text.

But it is possible to convert to UTF-8 and have the text display in visual
order. Put the text into <pre> elements or otherwise make sure that line breaks
are preserved for display, and apply the style rules given above.

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