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Re: Encoding: Referring people to a list of labels

From: Martin J. Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:06:36 +0900
Message-ID: <52E3627C.7000107@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
To: Andrew Cunningham <lang.support@gmail.com>
CC: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>, www-international@w3.org
Hello Andrew,

On 2014/01/25 6:23, Andrew Cunningham wrote:
> Hì Richard,
>
> Most of the cases of contemporary uses of legacy encodings I know of

Can you give examples?

> involve encodings not registered with IANA.

It's not really difficult to register an encoding if it exists and is 
reasonably documented. Please give it a try or encourage others to give 
it a try.

> Historical solutions are to just identify these encodings as iso-859-1 /
> windows-1252

I hope that's iso-8859-1, not iso-859-1, even if that's still a blatant lie.

Regards,   Martin.

> The tend to all be non-ASCII compatible encodings.
>
> Andrew
> On 25/01/2014 12:57 AM, "Richard Ishida"<ishida@w3.org>  wrote:
>
>> Anne, Joshua,
>>
>> I'm in the process of rewriting an article about character encodings and
>> CSS.  The current version of the article says that, if you for some reason
>> don't use UTF-8 and need to use @charset, you should refer to the IANA list
>> of encodings and choose the preferred label for the encoding you need.
>>
>> (I know, I know... people would be better off using UTF-8, and will
>> certainly recommend that, but we also want to document what to do in
>> situations where you have to deal with legacy encodings.)
>>
>> I'm thinking that we should be pointing them to the Encoding spec, rather
>> than the IANA list.
>>
>> We could point at http://encoding.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-encoding-get,
>> although there are two issues with that:
>>
>> 1. that table isn't really intended to provide a list of labels people
>> should use, it maps labels to encodings
>>
>> 2. the most commonly used label for an encoding, where there are more than
>> one per encoding, is generally not at the top of the list (although it is
>> used for the name of the encoding).
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> Do you agree that it would be useful to be able to point people to a list
>> of encoding labels that they should use for legacy or special situations?
>>
>> Should that list be in the Encoding spec?
>>
>> Should we make a separate list, or can we adapt/annotate the list at
>> http://encoding.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-encoding-get to serve that
>> purpose?
>>
>> RI
>>
>>
>
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