- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:49:25 +0100
- To: "public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt-comments@w3.org>, www-international <www-international@w3.org>
Hi i18n WG, you made various comments on the Ruby and the directionality sections of ITS2.0, see numbers in the topic line of this mail and the list below http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/86 https://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/209 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/90 https://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/214 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/91 https://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/215 https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/101 https://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/241 I have some general questions and remarks (all personal) on these comments. One possibility would be to discuss them on a joint call, e.g. the MLW-LT folks could join the i18n WG call 23 January 4-5 p.m. UTC. Now my thoughts: 1) in the MLW-LT working group, we don't have any experts on directionality and ruby. The motivation to have ruby in the ITS2 spec is backwards compatibility with ITS1.0, and to to have the markup available into other formats like XLIFF. The implementers in MLW-LT are not experts in both topics of directionality and ruby. So would the i18n WG be able to write the "definition" section for directionality? See the current section at http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-its20-20121206/#directionality-definition it is rather short: a paragraph and a list describing values. 2) There is no consensus yet about whether ruby should be in the spec or not, see i18n-issue-215 and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2013JanMar/0113.html What is the thought of the i18n WG on that? 3) Both ruby and directionality are still under development in HTML5. Then do you expect stability? Note that ITS2 is planning to move out of last call in March; even if we would delay that, we'd still need a clear time schedule. If you don't have a timeline at all, it might be safer for us to mark things a) as feature at risk or b) non-normative. What would be your preference? 4) We write in both the ruby and the directionality section "there is no implementation commitment". This is written from the knowledge of the MLW-LT WG for ruby (completely) and directionality (the rendering of text based on directionality markup). As you can see at http://tinyurl.com/its20-testsuite-dashboard that there is no commitment for ruby at all. Do you know other implementers that would implement Ruby *as ITS markup*? Note that we are not talking about ruby in HTML(5) - such implementations seem to happen no matter what ITS does anyway. Since we have a f2f meeting Wed-Thursday, discussing above topics in a joint call or getting your reply as a working group would be very helpful. Thanks a lot in advance, Felix
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