- From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 17:30:53 +0100
- To: www International <www-international@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
02 May 2013
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013May/0003.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-i18n-irc
Attendees
Present
Addison, Richard, Norbert, Mati, JcK, John Colosi,
Aharon, Najib_(IRC), Felix_(IRC)
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
aphillip
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Agenda
2. [6]Action Items
3. [7]Info Share
4. [8]RADAR
5. [9]TPAC
6. [10]Q/A Translate
7. [11]bidi
8. [12]AOB?
9. [13]LOD CG
* [14]Summary of Action Items
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Agenda
Action Items
<r12a> [15]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
<fsasaki> action-203 is ongoing, hope to have a call with robin
next week
<fsasaki> same for action-218
close ACTION-217
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-217 Move "other documents" up and
clean up the review radar.
close action-219
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-219 Replace inline bidi markup
document with new spiffy version with a button and its
companion explanation of UBA.
close action-220
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-220 Change TPAC reservation to
Thurs/Fri.
Info Share
<John_> Hello all
John: working for Verisign, worked on IDNA
... worked on RACE and later Punycode, policy, language tables,
etc.
... interest here is in IDNA policy and algorithms
JcK: tried to refer some folks to bidi docs
... what links to use?
<r12a>
[16]http://www.w3.org/blog/International/2013/04/22/4-new-artic
les-about-working-with-html-markup-in-arabic-hebrew-and-other-r
ight-to-left-scripts/
[16]
http://www.w3.org/blog/International/2013/04/22/4-new-articles-about-working-with-html-markup-in-arabic-hebrew-and-other-right-to-left-scripts/
<r12a> [17]http://www.w3.org/International/
[17] http://www.w3.org/International/
<r12a>
[18]http://www.w3.org/blog/International/2013/04/29/new-article
-unicode-bidirectional-algorithm-basics/
[18]
http://www.w3.org/blog/International/2013/04/29/new-article-unicode-bidirectional-algorithm-basics/
RADAR
[19]http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar#Internati
onalization_Review_Radar
[19]
http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar#Internationalization_Review_Radar
TPAC
Q/A Translate
[20]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013M
ay/0004.html
[20]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013May/0004.html
[21]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013M
ay/0001.html
[21]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013May/0001.html
[22]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-translate-flag
[22] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-translate-flag
<r12a>
[23]http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-translate-flag
[23] http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-translate-flag
richard: make comments on general direction
... interesting question from felix
<fsasaki> still in a meeting - saw your reply mail, richard -
sorry, didn't have time to look into it yet
richard: the situation is "you can say, do translate this
element and don't translate this element"
... ITS by default if translate is on, you translate element
contents but not attribute values
... but some attribute values contain natural language
... causes problems not just for trnaslate but for other markup
like bidi or language
... how do you handle when attribute and element contents are
different
... or if some require translation and some don't
... can't provide metadata about it
<fsasaki> FYI, ITS is also considering to drop its own
definiton of "translate" attribute *for HTML* and just refer to
the html spec - question is just which html spec ;)
richard: html currently says "if translate=yes" then translate
element and all attrbutes
<fsasaki> I think "html currently says" should be "html5.0 CR
doc says"
(we're actually discussing that)
<scribe> ACTION: addison: ping HTML about how to address
comments on translate attribute in HTML5 CR [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-221 - Ping HTML about how to address
comments on translate attribute in HTML5 CR [on Addison
Phillips - due 2013-05-09].
bidi
richard: two weeks since published proposals
... on isolate
... haven't seen any comments
... ready for next phase?
addison: agree
richard: send email to html list "we have this document, please
make a decision"?
... or do we write an extension spec?
... or maybe talk to robin about how to progress it
aharon: give them a document that says what needs to be done?
... don't want a futher document
... another doc not useful
... bug open on html-next
... proposal to isolate by default on items with dir and lang
... don't want lang right now
... backwards compatibility issue
... commented on the bug recently because previous stance
changed because of what I found in IE
<scribe> ACTION: richard: talk to robin about HTML5 bidi
proposal next steps [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-222 - Talk to robin about HTML5 bidi
proposal next steps [on Richard Ishida - due 2013-05-09].
<aharon>
[26]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18490
[26] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18490
AOB?
Norbert: ran across our charter
... noticed that encoding spec should be LC by now??
... how to start?
<scribe> ACTION: addison: follow up on status of encoding spec
[recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-223 - Follow up on status of encoding
spec [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-05-09].
<Zakim> Najib-ma, you wanted to comment on bidi
<Najib-ma> I think the text (bidi isolate) needs some
rewording…
<Najib-ma> It is written for (too much) to promote the solution
A.
<Najib-ma> Some significant advantages/disadvantage are not
well highlighted…
<Najib-ma> That's it
can you please send written comments so we can
incorporate/address? (send to www-international@)
<Najib-ma> Sure
thanks
<r12a> please send very soon
<Najib-ma> Yep!
[28]http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/CharmodNormProposal201
3
[28] http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/CharmodNormProposal2013
richard: AC meeting in Tokyo in June
... speaking there
... presentation from judy (head of a12y domain)
... if there is something I should present, please suggest
... started requirements initiatives
... localization work
... GEO work
... talk about things we haven't gotten to
... CG set up for best practices in multilingual open
data/semantic web
LOD CG
<r12a>
[29]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uaEJWrbnygkVyvSMAIbCxyM
xr-7ro2VLiG64qjfkKDg/edit?pli=1
[29]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uaEJWrbnygkVyvSMAIbCxyMxr-7ro2VLiG64qjfkKDg/edit?pli=1
<r12a> [30]http://www.w3.org/community/bpmlod/
[30] http://www.w3.org/community/bpmlod/
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison: follow up on status of encoding spec
[recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: ping HTML about how to address comments
on translate attribute in HTML5 CR [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: talk to robin about HTML5 bidi proposal
next steps [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2013/05/02-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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Richard Ishida, W3C
http://rishida.net/
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