- From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:35:36 +0000 (UTC)
- To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
- Cc: Simon Montagu <smontagu@smontagu.org>, www-html@w3.org, 'WWW International' <www-international@w3.org>, "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010, fantasai wrote: > On 03/17/2010 04:01 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, fantasai wrote: > > > On 01/14/2010 12:49 AM, Simon Montagu wrote: > > > > On 01/11/2010 11:35 PM, fantasai wrote: > > > > > On 11/26/2009 10:54 PM, Simon Montagu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I assume your Gecko example is using a very recent version of > > > > > > Gecko, such as a nightly build or a beta of Firefox 3.6? I > > > > > > fixed this issue only a few months ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > The HTML standard does specify what to do in this case, see > > > > > > http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/dirlang.html#style-bidi: > > > > > > > > > > > > "When a block element that does not have a dir attribute is > > > > > > transformed to the style of an inline element by a style > > > > > > sheet, the resulting presentation should be equivalent, in > > > > > > terms of bidirectional formatting, to the formatting obtained > > > > > > by explicitly adding a dir attribute (assigned the inherited > > > > > > value) to the transformed element." > > > > > > > > > > > > In practice, however, since browsers are not consistent, > > > > > > authors will have to use CSS properties to achieve the > > > > > > expected results. > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean applying "unicode-bidi: embed" to all block-level > > > > > elements? Because that seems like it fulfill those requirements. > > > > > > > > I was thinking in terms of applying "unicode-bidi: embed" ad hoc > > > > whenever applying "display: inline" to a specific element, but > > > > applying it wholesale to all block-level elements will also work, > > > > of course. > > > > > > In that case, I suggest the we add it to the sample default style > > > sheet for HTML 4 in the CSS2.1 appendix, and recommend the HTMLWG > > > add some wording about block-level elements defining bidi embedding > > > boundaries to the HTML5 spec (and perhaps using CSS's "unicode-bidi: > > > embed" rule as an example). > > > > Can you confirm what rule should be added to the HTML5 recommended > > style rules? This is an area where this has changed a lot over time > > (e.g. CSS2 used to have something like this then it was removed) so > > I'd like to make sure I get this exactly right and that everyone > > agrees it's the right thing to do. > > <selector representing all HTML5 block-level elements> { > display: block; /* I assume you already have this somewhere */ > unicode-bidi: embed; /* This is the new rule to add. */ > } > > <selector representing all HTML5 list-item elements> { > display: list-item; /* Assumed to exist already */ > unicode-bidi: embed; /* This is the new rule to add. */ > } > > title, table, tbody, thead, tfoot, tr, td, th { > unicode-bidi: embed; > } This would mean you couldn't have more than about 60 inline <div>s nested inside each other without bidi breaking down. Is that an acceptable risk? It seems like it would be a weird thing to tell authors. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
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