- From: Andrew Cunningham <andrewc@vicnet.net.au>
- Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:35:07 +1100
- To: www-international@w3.org
I suspect that my concerns about the <i> element is that to my mind it is presentational. I know that some people argue that it can have semantic meaning. But it only has semantic meaning if you assume that all languages and scripts on the web have to follow the typesetting and typographic traditions of Europe. Note that the conventions for italicization only allied to print publications, handwritten material and material prepared on a typewriter often used alternative conventions. In the early days of the web, and even now, you'll find articles and posts discussing how to bring good typographic practice to the web. Generally this centres on the needs and concerns of English or a few other European languages. Just look a the core non-Latin fonts on a standard operating system. Some scripts will only have one weight and style. Some fonts may be available in two weights. It is rare for a non Latin, Cyrillic or Greek typeface to have an italic or oblique version. Not even sure if I've ever seen an italic or oblique CJK font. I know I don't have any installed on my system, despite the number of fonts installed over the years. Even CSS3 is merely a step in the right direction. With a range of Latin/Cyrillic typographic conventions well embedded in CSS. The styling of web sites should be responsive to language and the typographic traditions of each language. Andrew KUROSAKA Teruhiko wrote: > > >> I'm wondering if anyone could answer a couple of questions for me. As >> I understand it Japanese doesn’t use italics as a form of emphasis, so >> using |<i>| tags around ideographic text is a big no no. Can anyone > > Not necessarily. Use of italic in Japanese text is rare but not wrong. > > By the way, the <i> tag will no longer mean italic when the now draft HTML5 > becomes the standard. Here's a quote from: > http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/#the-i > --------------------------------------------------- > The i element should be used as a last resort when no other element is more > appropriate. In particular, citations should use the cite element, > defining instances > of terms should use the dfn element, stress emphasis should use the em > element, > importance should be denoted with the strong element, quotes should be > marked > up with the q element, and small print should use the small element. > > Style sheets can be used to format i elements, just like any other > element can be > restyled. Thus, it is not the case that content in i elements will > necessarily > be italicised. > --------------------------------------------------- -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator (Vicnet) State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Australia Email: andrewc+AEA-vicnet.net.au Alt. email: lang.support+AEA-gmail.com Ph: +613-8664-7430 Fax:+613-9639-2175 Mob: 0421-450-816 http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/ http://www.vicnet.net.au/ http://www.openroad.net.au/ http://www.mylanguage.gov.au/ http://home.vicnet.net.au/~andrewc/
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