- From: Martin Duerst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
- Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:42:47 +0900
- To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, Unicode Mailing List <unicode@unicode.org>, "'WWW International'" <www-international@w3.org>
At 07:50 06/03/13, fantasai wrote: > >I'm currently going through emphasis marks used in East Asian texts >to see what options we need to define in CSS. One of the questions I >have is, where do the glyphs come from? Kobayashi Tatsuo and I looked >through the Unicode repetoire last week, and we found > U+FE45 SESAME DOT > U+FE46 WHITE SESAME DOT >which covers only two of the shapes. Also, they are in the compatibility >forms block, so their use is discouraged. > >Paul Nelson says Microsoft uses fixed shapes for these emphasis marks. > >In the case of the sesame at least, the shape in printed materials closely >parallels U+3001 IDEOGRAPHIC COMMA, which is provided by the font. Yes, it indeed very much looks that way. Your examples show dots (above) in horizontal text, and commas (or comma-like shapes) (on the right) in vertical text, and some text in the scans actually say that this is current practice. >I would like to know, is there a way, should there be a way, for the font >in use to have some say over the glyph shape for emphasis marks? From a purely aesthetic point of view, I'd guess yes. For a very light font, smaller dots/commas may be more appropriate. For a very heavy font, bigger dots/commas may be more appropriate. There may also be issues with how far a way from the main line the marks go; for different fonts, the optically best distance may be different. But from a practical viewpoint, it is very well possible that such adjustments are not done. I suggest you look at some fonts, or contact some font providers (e.g. Adobe and others). Being able to specify a specific character as an emphasis mark sounds attractive, but it would bring up the need to specify several other parameters, such as scaling and offsets. Regards, Martin. >As for other shapes, I have scanned in a few examples: > http://fantasai.inkedblade.net/style/discuss/emphasis-marks/ >I also remember a Tibetan book using x-shaped marks. > >Any comments on shapes, usage patterns, usefulness of various settings, >etc. would be much appreciated. > >~fantasai >
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