- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 17:03:43 +0900
- To: Goutam Kumar Saha <goutam.k.saha@kolkatacdac.in>
- Cc: www-international@w3.org
- Message-ID: <44619E5F.4080204@w3.org>
Hello Goutam, I received your mail. It may take some time until you see it on the list. If it is not on the list in a few hours, I will investigate further. Regards, Felix. Goutam Kumar Saha wrote: > *From:* Goutam Kumar Saha <mailto:goutam.k.saha@kolkatacdac.in> > *To:* steve@zilles.org <mailto:steve@zilles.org> > *Cc:* www-international@w3.org <mailto:www-international@w3.org> ; > www-style@w3.org <mailto:www-style@w3.org> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:55 AM > *Subject:* Fw: First Letter Styling for Indian languages > > Hi Steve, > The newspaper text that you have sent is not of Hindi. It is in > Bengali only. > Yesterday, I sent one example in Bengali. > Thanks. > Regards, > Goutam > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Goutam Kumar Saha <mailto:goutam.k.saha@kolkatacdac.in> > *To:* www-style@w3.org <mailto:www-style@w3.org> ; Richard Ishida > <mailto:ishida@w3.org> > *Cc:* www-international@w3.org <mailto:www-international@w3.org> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:58 PM > *Subject:* Re: First Letter Styling for Indian languages > > Hi All, > For Devanagari script, Bengali and Assamese scripts etc, we often use > first letter styling ( with or with little extended headstrokes or > without headstrokes ). Content Editor uses increased font size / style > face for the so called "a drop letter." Question of aligning > headstrokes does not arise here. Bengali example: > > > Regards, > Goutam > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jose <mailto:jose_stephen@cdactvm.in> > *To:* Richard Ishida <mailto:ishida@w3.org> > *Cc:* www-style@w3.org <mailto:www-style@w3.org> ; > www-international@w3.org <mailto:www-international@w3.org> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:04 PM > *Subject:* Re: First Letter Styling for Indian languages > > > Namaste Sir > > What you pointed out is correct since south indian languages doesn't > have the headstrokes as in Devanagari. Moreover the feature > of first-letter styling is desirable in South Indian languages > (Malayalm,Tamil,Telugu & Kannada). I will sent details of the rules > for the first letter syllabification of these languages later .. > > Thanking you > Jose > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Richard Ishida <mailto:ishida@w3.org> > *To:* 'Jose' <mailto:jose_stephen@cdactvm.in> ; www-style@w3.org > <mailto:www-style@w3.org> > *Cc:* www-international@w3.org <mailto:www-international@w3.org> > *Sent:* Friday, May 05, 2006 6:30 PM > *Subject:* RE: First Letter Styling for Indian languages > > Namaste Jose, > > Thank you for your contributions about Indian typographic > approaches. > > Please see, in connection with this first-letter topic, > http://www.w3.org/blog/International/2006/01/20/request_for_feedback_usefulness_of_first > > The i18n activity discussed this with CSS WG at the Technical > Plenary and Elika Eternad has proposed/will propose some new > text that recommends that this is handled by implementations > using language-specific rules. It will suggest that a good > starting point for implementations applying the style is > Unicode's default grapheme cluster (which ensures that most > combining characters are styled with base characters). In the > case of Malayalam additional rules would be needed, to apply the > styling to a whole syllable. > > The question in the blog item linked to above was "Does > Malayalam (or another Indian script) actually do such a thing as > first-letter styling?" I heard from some people in Delhi that > it is not typically done for Devanagari script - which is not so > surprising given the difficulty of aligning headstrokes. Since > Malayalam doesn't have a headstroke, this doesn't apply. I take > it from your mail that such a feature *is* desirable for > Malayalam. Please confirm. > > RI > > ============ > Richard Ishida > Internationalization Lead > W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) > > http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ > http://www.w3.org/International/ > http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* www-style-request@w3.org > [mailto:www-style-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *Jose > *Sent:* 05 May 2006 13:29 > *To:* www-style@w3.org > *Subject:* First Letter Styling for Indian languages > > > In CSS3 Selectors working draft( > ref:http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-selectors/) I found only the > description of the usage of single letters for styling of > first letter.And it is stated that some languages have > specific rules about how to treat certain letter > combinations.(Example given was the > Dutch(ref:http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-selectors/#first-letter) > But i didn't find any description for the implementation.In > the case of Indian languages single letter styling is not > applicable. > The description for the styling of first letter for > malayalam (An Indian language) is given below. > > When using 'first-letter' pseudo element the following > combinations can come . > > 1.single character(vowel script or consonant script) > Eg: > സ,ക,അ,ഊ...("sa"-U+0D38,"ka"-U+0D15,"a"-U+0D05,"uu"-U+0D0A,...) > 2.consonant cluster+vowel > Eg:ക്ഷ,ത്ര,ജ്ഞ,സ്കൂ...("ksha"-U+0D15U+0D4DU+0D37,"thra"-U+0D24U+0D4DU+0D30,"jna"-U+0D1CU+0D4DU+0D1E,"skuu"-U+0D38U+0D4DU+0D15U+0D42,...) > 3.consonant+vowel marker > Eg:ജൌ,ഹേ,സൂ,കൈ...("jau"-U+0D1CU+0D57,"hee"-U+0D39U+0D47,"suu"-U+0D38U+0D42,"kai"-U+0D15U+0D48,...) > > Please give us your valuable suggestions for the above > mentioned things. > > Jose Stephen > CDAC-TVM(INDIA) > > ______________________________________ > Scanned and protected by Email scanner > > > > ______________________________________ > Scanned and protected by Email scanner > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >
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