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Re: Using the X in XHTML to make hacks work in validators

From: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:42:23 +0000
Message-ID: <492B49EF.1070101@googlemail.com>
To: Tei <oscar.vives@gmail.com>
CC: www-html@w3.org

Tei wrote:
> People like Google and others add stuff to his webpages to fix general
> problems. I call that hacks "Crown Control Hacks".
> One of that hacks is rel=nofollow,  other is autocomplete="off"  (that
> one is created by mozilla, I think).

For what it's worth, rel="nofollow" is entirely valid in HTML 4.x and 
XHTML 1.x, although to be conforming technically you should include a 
profile attribute that defines "nofollow".

autocomplete was invented by Microsoft. Given Opera doesn't pay any 
attention to it by default, its utility is somewhat questionable.

> - Browsers hate my code and show the "]>" , but maybe is me... tryiing
> to run XHTML on HTML browsers with the wrong mime type.(FAIL!)

IIRC this represents an "error" in how some browsers parse HTML.

In any case, it's a well-publicized issue with appending to the DTD in 
this way:


> It has to run on IE and Firefox.   (NOTE: I use text/html to make IE
> happy, but If a different mime type can help, I want to know)

I believe you can swap in a different DTD with a local copy of the 
validator, so there's no special need to mess around with custom DTDs in 
this way.

It's not like what you're doing is conformant anyhow, so the only 
purpose of validation is to ensure that you're coding what you meant to 

You might consider using draft HTML5, since it might one day standardize 
the features you want. It includes autocomplete, not that it requires 
browsers to implement it (since it's regarded as a user-hostile feature 
desired by banks).

The validator already has experimental support for it.

Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Received on Tuesday, 25 November 2008 00:43:01 UTC

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