- From: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:45:11 +0900
- To: Livio Mondini <livio.mondini@gmail.com>
- Cc: "Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis" <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>, "Al Gilman" <Alfred.S.Gilman@ieee.org>, "www-html@w3.org" <www-html@w3.org>
Livio Mondini (26 sept. 2007 - 17:07) : >> 2. What possible solutions there might be? > Declaring on dtd two type of table, you solve at radix all problems. > One element for layout table, and a element for data table. This clear > problems at all levels. For now, there is no dtd in html 5 *editor* draft and the editor seems to see no benefits for them. The HTML WG has not yet decided about this issue. Another issue there are already a lot of tables of the two types (tabular, layout) using the table element. Most of this content will never be fixed. In your approach do you suggest to create 2 elements? Let's call them "tabled" (tabular data) and "tablep" (presentation). Some issues that will arise with this solution. Some people will use * tablep for tabular data * tabled for presentation A conformance checker will be unable to spot the mistake. Some people will still do nested tables. It doesn't solve the issue of deployed tables used for layout. Let's take a very simple example: <table> <tr> <td> [logo] </td> <td> site name</td> </tr> <tr> <td>left margin menu</td> <td> content </td> </tr> </table> You could do easily without loosing meaning, without creating any elements, without having people to change anything. <body class="main"> <h1> <span class="logo">[logo]</span> <span class="name">site name</span> </h1> <div class="main"> <div class="menu">left margin menu</div> <div class="content"> content </div> </div> </body> with for CSS file, http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-CSS2-19980512/tables.html#q2 body {display: table;} h1 {display: table-row;} div.main {display: table-row;} span.logo {display: table-cell;} span.name {display: table-cell;} div.menu {display: table-cell;} div.content {display: table-cell;} The only issue for now is that the CSS table model is not very well implemented in all browsers, and not at all in IE 6. I have not verified in IE7. I have the feeling that if browsers in general had implemented in *1998* the CSS table model, we would have a lot less layout tables to deal with. -- Karl Dubost - http://www.w3.org/People/karl/ W3C Conformance Manager, QA Activity Lead QA Weblog - http://www.w3.org/QA/ *** Be Strict To Be Cool ***
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