- From: Kelly Miller <lightsolphoenix@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:26:38 -0500
- To: Orion Adrian <orion.adrian@gmail.com>
- CC: www-html@w3.org
Orion Adrian wrote: >This all goes back to the HTML's original intentions of marking up the >basic building blocks of a document through the standard communication >methods of the day. > >However it seems very much that we're confused at this point since we >seem to be advocating getting rid of some of these basic building >blocks (like address) and not getting rid of the other building blocks >(like p). P is in the same exact category of semantics that Hn, >ADDRESS and UL are. P really means argument, idea, group of thoughts, >etc. It has different meanings. Here someone was advocating its usage >for addresses. > >But ADDRESS itself means more than author. It could be a destination >on an envelope or the source address on a letter. Look at documents >from 10 years ago and you'll see a very close correlation between the >structures used in them and the elements of early HTML. > >-- > >Orion Adrian > > I'm not suggesting getting rid of <address>. My point is that the term "address" in ambiguous by nature; I have used <address> to mark up copyright statements, because technically copyright is an address for the copyright holder. I've seen it used to do mailing addresses, email addresses, addresses for individuals, etc. It's exact meaning is ambiguous. And this is complicated by the insistence of W3C that it only contain inline elements. Every example of <address> I've ever seen has used <br /> inside it; but <br /> is mainly presentational. It's impossible to style decently, so authors (like me) are forced to use <span> and convert <span> into a block level element. This seems, to me, to be both structurally and semantically wrong. Basically, I'm asking if W3C can either change <address> to act like a full block container (like <div> and <p> do), or to clarify exactly what <address> is meant to do in XHTML somewhere in the specs. What's there at this point is very vague. -- http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ - Reclaim Your Inbox! Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
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