- From: Asbjørn Ulsberg <asbjorn@tigerstaden.no>
- Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:47:03 +0000
- To: "HTML List" <www-html@w3.org>
In HTML 4.01, the <dl> element can mark up both strict definition lists and something more like «name, value» collections[1]. The meaning of the word «definition list», however, does not imho open for loose interpretations of the element, which seems to be how XHTML 2.0 has implemented it. The XHTML 2.0 implementation of <dl> does leave a void, though. We no longer have a name-value type of list. I therefore wonder how the idea of such a list is read. In structure, it would probably be identical to <dl>, but in semantics and presentation, it would differ. Where definition lists often are presented like this: Dweeb young excitable person who may mature into a Nerd or Geek Hacker a clever programmer Nerd technically bright but socially inept person Name-value lists would imho make most sense presented like this: Romeo: You are like a shrine enclosing a holy relic, and I would be unforgivably uncouth to touch it with my unworthy hand except that I am ready to "kiss away" the damage I have done. Juliet: There's nothing wrong with your hand (I like it!), and handholding while we dance is quite legitimate; but you're being a little too bold in wanting to kiss me. If you're really a pilgrim, you should greet me only with your hand, as 'palmers' do. Romeo: Hey, even holy pilgrims are human: they've got lips. Please let me kiss you. Juliet: Pilgrims use their lips for praying, not kissing. The names and values could of course be anything. Definition lists are in a sense a more semantically specific version of name-value lists. The markup could look like this: <nvl> <nvi> <name>Romeo</name> <value> You are like a shrine enclosing a holy relic, and I would be unforgivably uncouth to touch it with my unworthy hand except that I am ready to "kiss away" the damage I have done. </value> </nvi> <nvi> <name>Juliet</name> <value> There's nothing wrong with your hand (I like it!), and handholding while we dance is quite legitimate; but you're being a little too bold in wanting to kiss me. If you're really a pilgrim, you should greet me only with your hand, as 'palmers' do. </value> </nvi> <nvi> <name>Romeo</name> <value> Hey, even holy pilgrims are human: they've got lips. Please let me kiss you. </value> </nvi> <nvi> <name>Juliet</name> <value>Pilgrims use their lips for praying, not kissing.</value> </nvi> </nvl> This is just one example, and probably not a good one. Other collections that could be marked up with a name-value list, is address information, electronic equipment specifications, etc. Maybe, and just maybe, definition lists could use the same markup as name-value lists, but the meaning of the name-value list could be altered with an attribute. ____ [1] «Another application of DL, for example, is for marking up dialogues, with each DT naming a speaker, and each DD containing his or her words.» <url: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/lists.html#edef-DL> -- Asbjørn Ulsberg -=|=- http://virtuelvis.com/quark/ «He's a loathsome offensive brute, yet I can't look away»
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