- From: <natej@excite.co.jp>
- Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 17:52:40 +0900 (JST)
- To: ernestcline@mindspring.com
- Cc: www-html@w3.org
linguists could use this, as a rough equivalent to MathML. i've seen tree diagrams of utterances down to the word in <abbr title="second language acquisition">SLA</abbr> theory. probly doesn't warrant its own module though. i've never written/used a custom XML application, but i've imagine there'd be problems with phrasal verbs. like split infinitives they'll be interrupted by other parts of speech. (ignoring the myth of tense for a moment) <sentence type="declarative"> <nounphrase><pronoun number="singular" case="nominative">I</pronoun></nounphrase> <verbphrase> <phrasalverb tense="past simple" number="singular"> woke up</phrasalverb> <adverb type="time">late</adverb>. </verbphrase> </sentence> make the verb transitive and it's split by its object <verbphrase><phrasalverb tense="present simple">wake <object type="direct"><pronoun number="singular" case="accusative">him</pronoun></object> up</phrasalverb> semantically the object should be nested inside the phrasal verb when it's transitive "wake [s.o.] up." i don't know if that applies to modifiers tho. e.g. get medieval on [s.o.] i'm gonna <phrasalverb>get medieval on <object ><trope="synecdoche" alt="you">your ass</trope></object> works fine, but i'm gonna GET wicked MEDIEVAL borgia-style ON [YOUR] sorry [ASS]. has the transitive phrasal verb (including the object) split into four sections, and the modifiers truly are separate from the verb (and therefore shouldnt be children of <phrasalverb>). and, <contraction title="I am">I<linkingverb>'m</contraction> going to</linkingverb> is gonna break something. (i also imagine there'd be some polarization between pro-descriptive and pro-ascriptive camps, split infinitives and "this is he" and whatnot...) nate jarvis "Ernest Cline" からのメール > > > Ha, ha. > A nice little joke, yet one with a grain of > truth in it. > > It certainly makes as much sense for there to > be an XHTML2 Grammar > Module as there does an XHTML2 Computing > Module, Indeed, we've already > had several requested elements that would fit > in such a module, one of > which, nr, is still under consideration. > > Here follows a semi-serious proposal for a > Grammar Module > > <sentence> > <clause> > <subject> or <subj> > <predicate> or <pred> > <nounp> or <np> (noun phrase) > <verbp> or <vp> (verb phrase) > <prepp> or <pp> (prepositional phrase) > <noun> or <n> > <pronoun> or <pron> > <verb> or <v> > <adjective> or <adj> > <adverb> or <adv> > <preposition> or <prep> > <conjunction> or <conj> > <interjection> or <interj> > <determiner> or <det> > > Each of the parts of the speech would of > course also need to have > attributes defined so as to allow for even > finer grained information to > be provided for those who really feel the > need to include it. (The > proposed nr element could be handled as <adj > role="number"> in such a > module. > > <sentence> > <conj>However</conj>, > <clause> > <clause mood="subjunctive"> > <conj>if</conj> > <subj><np><pron > person="2">you</pron></np></subj> > <pred tense="present"> > <v>think</v> > <np> > <pron>that</pron> > <clause> > <subj><np><pron person="1" > number="sing">I</pron></np></subj> > <pred tense="present"> > <v role="aux">would</v> > <v role="main">want</v> > <np> > <adj>every</adj> > <n>sentence</n> > <pp role="adj"> > <p>in</p> > <n><abbr title="XML HTML Version > 2.0">XHTML2</abbr></n> > </pp> > <vp role="adj"> > <v>marked</v> > <np> > <adj>this</adj> > > <n>way</n></np></vp></np></pred></clause></np></pred></clause>, > <clause> > <conj>then</conj> > <subj><np><pron > number="2">you</pron></np></subj> > <pred tense="present"> > <v>are</v> > <adj>crazy</adj></pred></clause></clause>! > </sentence> > > Rather, even if something like this were > included in XHTML2, (which I > am not in favor of, just as I am not in favor > of the elements that > would be in the proposed Computing Module.) I > would expect it to be > used only when the author considered marking > up the grammar to be > important in conveying his meaning. > >
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