- From: Jens Meiert <jens.meiert@erde3.com>
- Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:07:58 +0200 (MEST)
- To: www-html@w3.org
> I'm sorry if I seem arrogant; it's not my intention, and > I can tell you that I'm not. I see and understand your > problems, but I don't agree with your solutions. Okay. By the way, my table post was no solution, but a simple suggestion. > Yes, layout tables were necessary some years ago, when > most UA's still had v4.0 stamped on them. But today, it > isn't, and it's a better solution to get to authors write > semantically correct HTML than to make a hack in the HTML > spec to get semantically wrong HTML to "work". Exactly. What I wanted to express with 'develop for almost all user-agents' is the need still to develop for version 4.x browsers (since several 100,000s are still in use) -- and for me, that's a real accessibility matter (which the entire table discussion was at least about). Maybe this is a decision for each Web developer, but I decided not to throw out old browsers, not yet; I'll feel 'guilty' if I'd do so. Maybe the W3C (or the WAI WG) should publish timelines when to pass on compatibility to older user-agents...!? Otherwise, there'll always be the problem to define the moment when to do so (for me that's an important problem since there'll be only more user-agents, not less). > > But if you're only that pseudo-expert having no practice > > at all, testing your markup only in IE 6, you won't > > understand. > > What makes you get that impression of me? Now I'm sorry, but I felt somewhat angry when titled as someone 'without knowledge or experience'. I built a huge amount of Web sites until now, and I always tried to unite validity, usability, accessibility matters in them -- and I guess (or hope), successfully anyhow. > > I don't need any specification advocate when this ain't > > serving former or current needs. > > Current needs are based on bad code, and instead of making > the bad code work, I think we (as a web authoring community) > should make the bad code right. I fully agree. Regards, Jens. -- Jens Meiert Steubenstr. 28 D-26123 Oldenburg Mobil +49 (0)175 78 4146 5 Telefon +49 (0)441 99 86 147 Telefax +49 (0)89 1488 2325 91 Mail <jens@meiert.com> Internet <http://meiert.com>
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