- From: Micah Dubinko <MDubinko@cardiff.com>
- Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:45:10 -0700
- To: "'www-html@w3.org'" <www-html@w3.org>
The initial Working Draft of XHTML includes a <hr> element in the "presentation" module. I will provide evidence that this is an incorrect classification in some cases. Here is a quote from Orson Scott Card's _Ender's Game__: (p 260) Graff seemed unconcerned. But then, Graff always seemed unconcerned. The next day everything changed. Graff went away, and in his place they gave Ender a companion. --- He was in the room when Ender awoke in the morning. He was an old man. ... On this particular printed page, the separator "---" is rendered as about a 1 cm line with lots of whitespace above and below. It is also commonly rendered as three asterisks. Separators such as this indicate a "break in the action", and often a character viewpoint change as well. They are part of the story, and not just decoration, like say border-bottom. In __Characters and Viewpoint__, also by Orson Scott Card, he says (p 157) The next-clearest [after changing viewpoint characters on a chapter boundary] transitional device is the "line space"--a double-double space if you work on a typewriter, two hard carriage returns if you work on a word processor. ... Usually a line space is marked in manuscript with three asterisks, like this: * * * The asterisks will usually appear in the finished book or magazine only if the line space falls at a page break. The rest of the time they'll be deleted, leaving only a blank line. This shows that the line space carries special semantics that for instance an ebook reader or speech device (and hopefully mainstream browsers) could render specially. The reason for the quotations is to show that this is a widespread practice, and should be supported in XHTML. An empty <p/> or <line/> wouldn't work. Admittedly, most instances of <hr> on the Web today probably are presentational, and should be discouraged. So, I would like to request: 1. Change the name of <hr> to <linespace> or something similar. 2. Include the renamed element in the Text module instead of the Presentation module 3. Include an explanation and example of proper usage. Thanks! .micah
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