- From: Klaas De Waele <klaas@gracegraphics.be>
- Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:52:54 +0200
- To: "'Murray Macdonald'" <murray@mha.ca>, "'Adnan Baradi'" <adnanbaradi@joinnet.com.jo>, "'www-html@w3.org'" <www-html@w3.org>
- Cc: "'ziadbaradi@prodigy.net'" <ziadbaradi@prodigy.net>
Couldn't help but reply. 1- Unprofessional 2- Inpredictable 3- Inconsistent 4- Inefficient 5- ... 1- My original studies were video, technical as well as creative. RGB values are sacred. Opening up the colour schemes in this ay would get even more people start messing around in html. About 80% of all websites are completely unprofessional. CSS is a good start in having a raised step-up. The web IS NOT EASY. This should be clear in the standards too. 2- Without looking anything up, would you know what exact color would be returned by typing 'Kayjey'? 3- It's possible the color Kayjey and Kayjeu would mean completely different colours. On the other hand, Kayjey might be the same as wacko. In addition, existing brand names already have a color related to them. What if the Coca Cola color would actually be lime green? Don't think they would appreciate it the way you're presenting it now. Plus can you imagine the customers... well, just slightly darker, a bit more blue, no now a bit more green. Yes, now can you give me twice as bright orange? Hell, you know what I mean, in hex or dec, you need to just calculate with numbers. You can't do that with words. Unless of course... ([{log(Kayjey)˛}/16.777.216]*16sqrt(Kayjey)])-[(Kayjey/pi)^tng˛(sin Kayjey)] 4- The good thing about RGB: you need only six characters to define 16.777.216 colours. Quite enough? It's better than the 9 characters needed in RGB(xxx,xxx,xxx) because of using 16-value characters (hexadecimal). You would need to memorize 16.777.216 different words to define the same number of colours. Just a question - how many words are there in the English language? Why is Chinese so HARD to learn? Yep... Kayjey btw... Traditional Chinese has a single symbol for each word... -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: www-html-request@w3.org [mailto:www-html-request@w3.org]Namens Murray Macdonald Verzonden: donderdag 19 april 2001 10:54 Aan: 'Adnan Baradi'; www-html@w3.org CC: ziadbaradi@prodigy.net Onderwerp: RE: VERY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ABOUT MY NEW METHOD FOR THE (HT ML) COLOR CODING - EXTREMELY EASY TO USE - MINIMIZING ERROR POSSIBILITIES - BRAND NAMES FOR THE FIRST TIME TO APPEAR ON THE SCREEN - WORDS OF MULT ILANGUAGES ARE ENABLED TO BE USED .. While I agree this "announcement" offers little significant contribution beyond existing mechanisms, I can't get over the fact that it seems to really be a document designed to establish intellectual property precedence and established usage in Jordan. Clearly this announcement is designed to demonstrate Mr. Baradi's "enacted" copyright for something and its "authenticated" publication on third party websites. Is this intended to be a proposal to the W3 or some form of mutant legal precedence notice crossed with the son-of-spam? Mr. Baradi is failing to propose anything that would, in my opinion, add any improvement over existing standards, and that would infact lead to confusion within the existing standards. I can't imagine why he stopped short of suggesting that ALL tags and attribute and all allowed values have support in multiple languages and UAs could support rendering of such multilingual tags. Why just colors? The reason not to do this is that such changes would lead away from established open "standards" to separate localized standards, and cause html code base fragmentation, additional UA complexity, and increased misunderstandings between web developers. --M. Since Mr. Baradi's copyright was enacted, through the Ministry of Culture - Department of the National Library - Amman (The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan) Ref. No.: M A/1/2538 Dated September 6th. 2000, he has developed color charts related to his new method in English, as well as for numerous International languages including the above-mentioned languages all of which use letters other than Latin. These charts will be available on the Internet and in print. Mr. Baradi added that while attending the Jordanian Pavilion as the Major Calligrapher at the Expo, which took place in Hanover - Germany, a journalist from Berlin named Barbara Schumacher was covering the main Expo activities, Ms. Schumacher met with Mr. Baradi and included an article about his skill in Calligraphy, as well as referring to his New HTML Method. Her article was published and authenticated within several web sites on the 11th of August 2000. -----Original Message----- From: Adnan Baradi [mailto:adnanbaradi@joinnet.com.jo] Sent: April 17, 2001 12:07 AM To: www-html@w3.org Cc: ziadbaradi@prodigy.net Subject: VERY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ABOUT MY NEW METHOD FOR THE (HTML) COLOR CODING - EXTREMELY EASY TO USE - MINIMIZING ERROR POSSIBILITIES - BRAND NAMES FOR THE FIRST TIME TO APPEAR ON THE SCREEN - WORDS OF MULTILANGUAGES ARE ENABLED TO BE USED .. Importance: High Date: APRIL 17, 2001 To: www-html@w3.org From: ADNAN BARADI SUBJECT: ANNOUNCEMENT - ABOUT MY NEW METHOD FOR HTML COLOR CODING - EXTREMELY EASY TO USE - MINIMIZING ERROR POSSIBILITIES - BRAND NAMES FOR THE FIRST TIME TO APPEAR ON THE SCREEN - WORDS OF MULTILANGUAGE'S ARE ENABLED TO BE USED .. IT IS THE (FIFTH METHOD). IT IS REFERRED TO AS: jordanianWEBcolor Greetings, In addition to my previous enquires and informing about my innovation and concept regarding developing an easy way to assign the colors required within the HTML, and because I believe that you are The appropriate and main organization, who is taking enough care, to lead the html programmers toward any development and enhancements re the implementation of the HTML, I would like to send you the following Announcement, which is assumed to be published within one of the News Agency, very soon. ANNOUNCEMENT: ANNOUNCEMENT A new method of assigning colors within the HTML programming language, The (Hyper Text Markup Language) considered to be the backbone, for designing websites on the Internet, has recently been developed by a Jordanian computer programmer, Adnan Subhi Barad'i. Mr. Barad'i states, "Before my invention of a simpler color assignment method within the HTML - in addition to automatically clicking color pallets - only four methods existed. The first method is applied, by directly inserting the name of the color required, this method is limited to only 16 different colors. The second method is applied, by inserting a two-digit figure for each unit, which meant SIX DIGITS in total. The units indicate the shade value of color related to the Red, the Green and the Blue (RGB), which conform the three basic colors. These units should be inserted consequently. The third method is also applied in the same manner, but by inserting letters ranging from A to F, instead of using figures. Again, the use of two alphabets describes each unit. The fourth method is alpha numeric using a combination of the alphabet and numbers. The second, third and fourth methods, are all limited to SIX DIGITS OR CHARACTERS - no more, no less. My new discovery herein referred to as the "Fifth Method" works perfectly with FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT or more characters. Even when characters are more, yet it saves time. Most importantly, my method makes it simple for users around the world, to memorize their favorite colors without having to constantly reference charts. In addition, this method greatly minimizes errors. Among other advantages, for the First time, Multi Languages and Brand Names are involved, as explained below. This innovation facilitates the use of color assignments even when compared with those who choose the assignment of their intention, by picking colors automatically, through the color palettes, those user groups will find out that this new method is far superior, thus allowing free, unlimited choice of colors. More than one reason supports my concept, since the colors stand obviously and clearly, for a precisely better choice. Because the colors are appearing separately and not surrounded by similarities, colors stand out. Each color is individually placed over a white background for dark and medium shades; while upon black background for the light and extra light different shade of colors. Yet it is quicker, saving time and eliminating hassles with extreme ease for future reference to their assigned colors. My new "Fifth Method" afford the user the ultimate flexibility in naming the color they frequently use more freely, and since there is almost no limitation on the number of characters allowed, different length for brand names, such as Coca Cola, Pepsi Cola, Chrysler, Rolls-Royce, Omega, Swatch, Dell and Compaq etc. Additionally, personal names, EVEN sometimes when including TWO WORDS, with a space in between, such as BILL GATES, are functioning, leading to generate colors related to their personal names as well as local and the international brands, for the First time, to exist and to appear. ARAB BANK, the well-known worldwide Prime Bank, (composed of two words with space in between), generates a beautiful attractive shade of green, which contrasts beautifully with white or black backgrounds, in addition to several other colors. Brand names colors are usually selected and assigned by artists and graphic designers, then approved by managers, owners, or decision makers. The colors related to brand names through my new method is different, simply because it will be automatically assigned by the computer, according to the value and effect of its letters, and without any human interference. The majority of brand names generate colors other than black, yet there are certain possibilities that I can let some of the few which its outcome is black, to be changed through certain very brief alteration. Accordingly, now, brand names have two major colors that are related to the brand. The well-known one commonly referred to as The "CORPORATE COLOR", and the newly born Brand Color. Thus, in addition to what is mentioned above, my "Fifth Method" creates a new terminology. The best description of this terminology - in my opinion - should be referred to as the: WEB BRAND COLOR. The new Web Brand Color will help in numerous ways. The main feature, will significantly serve in the addition of a new effective advertising tool. This new tool will work and function as a prestigious media for promoting the services or the products of any world-renowned brand name, through the indirect power and effect, which is expected to generate a major impact. Since it will be presented to skillful personnel. We should take into consideration that, this matter would take place through the data inside the computer, by looking and typing these brands within their color-coding on one hand. On the other, through the Fancy Color Charts available within their hands and vision. The charts will be printed on thick and durable hardboard. This issue could be explained in further detail, outside of this announcement. But I should add, that within the availability of my color charts on the Internet, a click on any brand name included as a vehicle to lead to a certain color, has also another function; it will also link the clicker, to the Web Site related to the brand name. So the effect of this tool is extremely imperative and massive. I have a new suggested concept in this respect, addressed to the Major Brand Owners, to enable the clickers not only to reach to a web site, but also it might lead them to be linked to an up-to-date changeable and variable Advertising Page or to a certain Schedule or new Announcements. It is considered Great News, for people around the world who use languages other than English, that for the first time within the HTML codes - and through my new method - they can use their native language, to assign the required colors. Even the programmers whom their languages doesn't include Latin letters; now, they can also, get the same advantages by dealing with their own native languages transliterated phonetically, using Latin letters. Thus, HTML users and programmers of many languages such as Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Arabic and Armenian, can assign the colors through these languages". The trademark for the new method is: jordanianWEBcolor. It is a simple innovation, yet it leads to great impact on features and results". Since Mr. Baradi's copyright was enacted, through the Ministry of Culture - Department of the National Library - Amman (The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan) Ref. No.: M A/1/2538 Dated September 6th. 2000, he has developed color charts related to his new method in English, as well as for numerous International languages including the above-mentioned languages all of which use letters other than Latin. These charts will be available on the Internet and in print. Mr. Baradi added that while attending the Jordanian Pavilion as the Major Calligrapher at the Expo, which took place in Hanover - Germany, a journalist from Berlin named Barbara Schumacher was covering the main Expo activities, Ms. Schumacher met with Mr. Baradi and included an article about his skill in Calligraphy, as well as referring to his New HTML Method. Her article was published and authenticated within several web sites on the 11th of August 2000. ADNAN SUBHI BARAD'I BARADI GROUP adnanbaradi@joinnet.com.jo & ziadbaradi@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Adnan Baradi To: www-html@w3.org Cc: adnanbaradi@prodigy.net Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:18 PM Subject: LOCAL+INTERNATIONAL BRANDS FOR THE FIRST TIME ON THE SCREEN HAS AUTOMATIC WEB COLOR IDENTITY!! By Adnan Baradi Date: FEB. 22, 2001 Greetings, Further to the message sent yesterday, which its main topic was the following question: ENQUIRY ABOUT: HOW IMPORTANT THE HTML TRADITIONAL COLOR CODES WITH ITS FOUR CHOICES (WHEN ASSIGNING THE REQUIRED COLORS) IS AT PRESENT, WITH THE EXISTENCE OF THE AUTOMATED VESSELS AVAILABLE SUCH AS THE FRONT PAGE OR THE EASILY ACCESSIBLE COLOR PALLETS? I would like to add more details about my New Color Codes, to mention its advantages in comparison with the well known Traditional HTML Color Codes. and then enquire about another important points. ADVANTAGES: First: Less reference to the Charts time after another. Second: Saving time and preventing possible errors. Third: Beside English .. allow assigning the codes in multi languages. Also, I would like to make the following Announcement: NOW .. FOR THE FIRST TIME ON THE SCREEN AND THROUGH MY NEW (SLIGHTLY CHANGED METHOD BASED ON THE HTML COLOR CODES DEFINITION) WITH ITS SIGNIFICANT OUTCOME AND RESULT .. IT OPEN THE GATE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL BRANDS, IS POSSIBLE TO GENERATE THROUGH THE COMPUTER - AUTOMATICALLY AND WITHOUT INTERFERENCE FROM THE PROGRAMMER - TO GENERATE A CERTAIN UNIQUE COLOR RELATED TO THE NAME OF THE BRAND, THROUGH MY NEWLY ADJUSTED HTML COLOR CODING. OBVIOUSLY, THE COLOR WHICH WILL COME OUT, HAS NO RELATION TO THE CORPORATE COLOR, WHICH WAS SELECTED EARLIER. ACCORDINGLY, FROM NOW ON, IF A NEW NAME BRAND EXIST .. THE DESIGNERS AND THE OWNERS OR THE DECISION MAKERS HAS THE CHANCE TO ADOPT THE NEWLY GENERATED COLOR - SPECIALLY IF THE COLOR WAS ATTRACTIVE TO THEM, TO DECIDE ADOPTING THAT COLOR, TO HOLD AND REPRESENT THEIR IDENTITY!! TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, MY RIGHTS AS THE FOUNDER WHO MADE THIS ACTION EXIST. THIS GOES ALSO FOR ANY NAME BRAND OWNER WHO DECIDE TO USE THIS NEW OUTCOME. THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS WILL BE REALIZED WHEN I INCLUDE THESE BRAND NAMES WITHIN MY CHARTS, WHICH WILL BE LAUNCHED FOR FREE FROM ONE OF THE FAMOUS WEBSITES IN EACH COUNTRY. USA, CANADA, FRANCE, GERMANY ETC... HOWEVER, A NEW ACHIEVEMENT IS BY NOW TAKING ITS CHANCE TO EXIST .. ACCORDINGLY .. A NEW TERMINOLOGY IS WITHIN OUR VISION. MY NEW CODES OPEN THE WAY TO include the names of the majority of the International Brands (Beverages, Foodstuff, watches, cars, perfumes, computers etc...) to be included (after the approval of the Brands Decision Makers) within my List of Codes. Accordingly, For the First Time on the Screen, a New Terminology have the Chance to be born or to Exist. The definition of that terminology, could be: COMPUTERIZED WEB BRAND COLOR IDENTITY or: AUTO WEB BRAND COLOR IDENTITY. WHAT I KNOW ABOUT YOUR CORPORATION, IS THAT IT IS A NON-PROFITABLE ORGANIZATION. IF THE RULES AND PRACTICE OF YOUR CORPORATION INCLUDE GENERATING SOME SORT OF ADDITIONAL INCOME FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES. I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A JOINT-VENTURE COOPERATION WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION, BY SPONSORING MY ACTIVITY WHICH ARE PRESENTED WITHIN THIS LETTER AND YESTERDAY'S ONE. Different than the Corporate Colors for the Brands, which will be designed and a choice or selection regarding its color or colors will be assigned. The Auto Web Brand Color, will be assigned only through the Computer. This important matter was not existing at all before. Please select one of the above Terminology to correspond about the outcome of the New Codes, like the Fate, you cannot change it, because it will be indicated automatically. or may be you can come out of a better expression for the Outcome. So, the other question regarding the above, is: IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A NEW DEFINITION REGARDING the WEB COLOR RELATED TO THE NAME OF THE BRAND? IF SO, is my description to the Terminology is correct or considered appropriate? Thank you again in advance. My Best wishes to All your active staff. Appreciating receiving your reply at your early convenience. ADNAN BARADI The Developer and Founder of New Codes within the HTML adnanbaradi@prodigy.net P.S: I WELCOME ANY COMMENTS OR CRITISYSM REGARDING THE STYLE OF MY LETTER, OR ANY GRAMMATIC MISTAKES, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, THAT ENGLISH IS MY SECOND LANGUAGE. THANKS FOR ALL WHO WILL FORGIVE, IF FATAL MISTAKES ARE NOT WITHIN MY MESSAGE. ==========================================
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