- From: Dudley Mills <dudmills@ozemail.com.au>
- Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:02:45 +1100
- To: Benjamin Franz <snowhare@netimages.com>
- CC: www-html@w3.org
Hi Benjamin, Yes, Patent Examiners are not perfect and they do have an extremely taxing job - one I would not like to do. The real question, as I see it, is if granting patents over computer related inventions is in the public interest or not. The theory is that the discloure in a patent makes the technology known to others and a temporary monopoly encourages the development of technology useful to the public. I, for one, would not bother inventing if I could not patent my inventions. Kind regards, Dudley Mills, 30 Hutchison Crescent, Kambah, ACT 2902, Australia. phone/fax: +61-2-6296-2639 email: dudmills@ozemail.com.au web: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~dudmills/ Benjamin Franz wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Dudley Mills wrote: > > > There has been some discussion in this forum about the patentability and > > desirability of patenting inventions based on specific new HTML (or > > SGML) tags such as in: > > > > At the very least the granting of these patents demonstrates that > > inventions having a special new HTML or SGML tag or element as an > > essential component are considered patentable by their US Patent > > Examiners. > > [snip] > > The Patent Office *often* grants patents that fail to hold up when > challenged on grounds of being unpatentable due to obviousness, > impossibility or prior art. For example, people slip 'perpetual motion > machines' past them every year despite the fact the Patent Office > *specifically* forbids the patenting of Perpetual Motion Machines (at > least without an actual *working* model). > > I seems to recall someone patenting 'unrolled loops' for software. Never > mind people have been using them since at least the sixties and it is > probably been 'invented' independantly many many thousands of times by > programmers needing to speed up a piece of software with deep loops. They > are *OBVIOUS*. So obvious that probably almost every large piece of > software has the trick embedded into them by optimizing compilers > somewhere. Obvious enough that computer scientists working with > 'Artificial Life' programs have witnessed it being 'invented' by programs > themselves. > > And a couple of years ago some idiots over at AT&T patented the idea of > 'thumbnail images' for a web browser 'page history' (A web browser (not > from AT&T) was doing that years before their patent application). And yet > *another* idiot tried to patent the idea of 'downloading and executing > programs' in web browsers (only 3-5 years after they were first proposed > and implemented and a decade or so after the idea first circulated - the > guy actually had the balls to try and *collect* royalties - whatever > happened to him and his 'R' something or another Mosaic-license browser > anyway? Didn't we come to the conclusion that Postscript would have come > under his patent if it was valid?) > > The US Patent Office is well known for its lack of cluefulness in the > computer field. It is one of the reasons many people argue that the Patent > Office should get out of the business of patenting software algorithms > entirely (which is a questionable practice under the law anyway). > > -- > Benjamin Franz
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