- From: David Marsh <drmarsh@bigfoot.com>
- Date: 14 Sep 97 22:03:57 +0000
- To: www-html@w3.org, lehors@w3.org
On 09-Sep-97 10:07:57, lehors@w3.org (Arnaud Le Hors) said: [Source: email, Subject was: Re: HTML4.0 draft: comments re: inclusion of frames] >> I am very disappointed and alarmed at the inclusion of Netscape's 'frame' >> construct within the draft HTML4.0 specification. >> >> I wish to express, in the strongest terms, my concern that frames should >> not be allowed to enter the rulebook of standard HTML. >I just would like to point out that the "standard HTML" is what the W3C >members want it to be. Thank you for your response. I am aware that HTML does evolve to take account of the desires of the W3C members, but I would hope that the input of ordinary users and authors (such as those on this list) is also taken into consideration, otherwise there is very little point in having such a list ;-( I'm also a little disappointed that you made no comment on my suggestion that an element similar to the HTML3.0 <BANNER> should be recreated to allow for the most common frame use, namely to provide an additional navigation bar. My main concern with frames (apart from their non-degradability, which is important in itself), is that, unlike <BANNER> (which logically would imply only one banner per document), there can be multiple frames per 'page' which can lead to some grotesque 'designs' with multiple frames for logos, adverts, etc. This kind of overloaded 'page' takes long enough to download and layout on a graphical browser, and unfortunately, I suspect that the task of making meaningful layouting of this type of document in a textual browser would be well-nigh impossible. At least a browser like Lynx could, I imagine, easily make sense of pages with a single BANNER to the top or bottom of the document. Dave. -- David Marsh, drmarsh@bigfoot.com | http://squelch.home.ml.org/ | // Glasgow/Glaschu, Scotland. *If urgent, phone: +44 141 636-6084.* | \X/ >> CYCLEWAY: cycle activism UK/IE: http://squelch.home.ml.org/cycleway/ << >> includes bikes on public transport, and cycle organisation directories << [Actively seeking work: see http://squelch.home.ml.org/tgfx/cv.html]
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