- From: Terje Norderhaug <Terje@in-Progress.com>
- Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 23:16:40 -0700
- To: www-html@www10.w3.org
- Cc: joe@htmlscript.com, connolly@www10.w3.org, linas@fc.net, megazone@livingston.com, czimmerm@NMSU.Edu, fepotts@fepco.com, showard@visdesigns.com, msftrncs@htcnet.com, walter@natural-innovations.com, jaobrien@fttnet.com, marc@ckm.ucsf.edu, keith@intransco.com, markg@webtechs.com (Mark Gaither), papresco@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
At 8:44 PM 1/29/97, Mark Gaither wrote: >Paul Prescod <papresco@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: >> >> HTML is a language based on SGML, a meta-language. SGML can define >> an infinite number of different languages, including HTML plus your >> funny extra data types. There are several HTML extensions defined >> this way. There are several WYSIWYGish tools that can work with the >> documents in this way (SoftQuad Author/Editor, Emacs PSGML, InContext >> 2, Arbortext AdeptEditor, etc.). >> >> Despite the fact that this has always been the case and that people >> are doing this now, you might be interested to know that a subset >> of SGML (a simpler subset) is being standardized by the W3C so >> there may one day be even more choice of editors and tools. In the >> meantime, though, the SGML tools do an excellent job. > > My experience might prove helpful in this thread. I've developed > a DTD which incorporates HTML 3.2 (Wilbur) with Htmlscript, Corp.'s > new Jyve language. Jyve includes HTML 32. plus Htmlscript extensions. > (see http://www.htmlscript.com/). > > What does this mean? It means that SoftQuad's Author/Editor and > HotMetal can be used to edit an Htmlscript template. This template > contains traditional HTML plus the Htmlscript extensions. The > addition of Htmlscript extensions to the HTML 3.2 spec results > in the Jyve language. The template is interpreted by Htmlscripts > language interpreter. > > Why did this happen? Htmlscript figured out (with a lot of prodding > from WebTechs and from very large and successful SGML software >developer > plus a myriad of Htmlscript users) that it would actually be benficial > to their users. These users are heavy users of already deployed and > understood tools such as Author/Editor, Arbor Text, and DynaText. HtmlScript is very far from from aherance to SGML philosphy, in contrast to what is stated in their press releases. "Command" tags such as <HIDE> <IF> and for assignments <LET> should be clear examples of how it conflict with the philosphy of descriptive markup of SGML. This and the many other tools based on command tags are a step backwards, whether they can be described with a DTD or not. -- Terje <Terje@in-Progress.com> Media Design in*Progress Make your Web Site a Social Place with Interaction! http://interaction.in-progress.com
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