- From: Charles Peyton Taylor <CTaylor@wposmtp.nps.navy.mil>
- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:24:08 -0800
- To: www-html@www10.w3.org
>>> Heikki Vesalainen <wes@clinet.fi> 03/19/96 08:57am >>>
>Hi!
>(my original popup proposal is at http://www.clinet.fi/~wes/popup.html)
>> Is there a reason why ppl aren't looking at modifying
>> the target? (ie. making a paragraph, table, or <div>
>> a pop-up regardless of where it's linked from.)
>
>Could you be more spesific? If a table was a popup, when would it be rendered
>(when would it pop up)? How would you achieve the compatibility with older
>versions, as all the browsers cannot be updated at once?
What I was thinking of was something like the <fn> element
of the expired HTML 3 draft. Or you might do something
with styles. Again, this gets simpler if things used the
ID attribute, but it could be accomplished with <a name>
Say, at the bottom a document you might have this:
<div class=footnote ID=morf_bear >
<h3> Teddy Bear Gender </h3>
<P> It is unclear, however, whether Rupurt regarded his
teddy bear as a male or female bear, or the effect this
might have had on childhood and his later developement.
</div>
and then in a stylesheet have something like this:
DIV.footnote { popup:yes; }
and then somewhere in the body of the document:
Rupert loved his teddy bear, which he always referred
to only as "bear" [<a href="morf_bear"><sup>1</sup></a>]
Of course, it's up to the browser author on how to
implement it, but this is the way I would do it
on a GUI browser: when the user clicks (or otherwise
selects) "1" a small, borderless window appears containing
everthing in <div> appears. If necessary, vertical
scroll bars allow for scrolling, but you don't really
want a book in a foot note. (Really, I'm looking
for <fn>.) When viewing the document on screen,
the <div> is invisible, but when printed, it is on
the same page as the refering <a>.
If you are using windows 3.x, you can see what I mean
by going to the Program Mangager Help menu, selecting
Contents, then selecting "Arranging Windows and Icons",
then clicking on the section that reads "title bar".
>> I don't think opening a whole new window is the way to
>> go, partly since that's already availble from the user's
>> standpoint, (at least in Netscape.)
>Your thought isn't clear! How can we have popup windows with out opening a small
>new window for the purpose?
No, my thought wasn't clear. What I meant was that
I didn't think it was necessary to start a whole new
browser, the way you would using the "open new window
with this link" feature in Netscape.
>The Netscape allways opens a new window the size of the old window. You cannot
>determine which size the new window would be.
>How about we add the Width and Height to A HREF tag?
Bad. What If I'm using a 200x400 screen? What if I'm
using a 2000x4000 screen? If you size it for the big
screen, it looks bad on the small screen, and vice versa.
>ps. am I being too consearned with compatibility with the older browsers?
>-- Heikki Vesalainen http://www.clinet.fi/~wes/ wes@clinet.fi
Received on Tuesday, 19 March 1996 16:20:41 UTC