- From: T. Joseph W. Lazio <lazio@spacenet.tn.cornell.edu>
- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:52:31 -0500
- To: philipp@res.w3.org
- Cc: www-html@www10.w3.org
>>>>> "PP" == Philippe-Andre Prindeville <philipp@res.w3.org> writes:
PP> Anyone else notice that the Latin-1 entities are given as "&255;"
PP> and not "ÿ" in the 3.0 draft (now obsolete, I guess)?
Nope, but then since it's obsolete...
PP> Anyone have a table that explains which browsers implement which
PP> tags/entities? I'm writing some internal tools here, and I want
PP> to make sure they work with everyone's browsers.
You want BrowserCaps, <URL:http://www.objarts.com/bc/>.
PP> Is it &endash; or – finally? Did we decide? And more
PP> importantly, does anyone implement it?
Well, according to the obsolete HTML 3 DTD
<!ENTITY mdash SDATA "[ndash ]" -- em dash -->
<!ENTITY ndash SDATA "[ndash ]" -- en dash (1/2-em) -->
but you'd have to check BrowserCaps for more info. You might also
want to check <URL:http://www.acl.lanl.gov/HTML_WG/archives.html> to
see what the status of the HTML WG is on this subject.
PP> Is there a list of Mozillaisms?
If so, only Netscape will know for sure.
PP> [...]
PP> Lastly, I was thinking that it would be useful to add some
PP> attributes to <p> for moving in the left or left and right margins
PP> for paragraphs, and adding an exdented tag. I catch myself using:
[...]
PP> even though it's not really a definition... but more of a
PP> tagged/numbered citation.
You want style sheets. See <URL:http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/Style/>.
They do everything you describe and more.
PP> Can <p> be used within the body of a <dd>? No reason the text of
PP> a definition can't span paragraphs, right?
Right. From the HTML 2 DTD,
<URL:http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec_9.html#SEC9.1>
<!ELEMENT DD - O %flow>
^^^^^^^^^^ ^ ^ ^^^^^
1 2 3 4
which says that a DD element(1) consists of a mandatory start-tag(2),
namely <DD>; an optional end-tag(3), namely </DD>; and %flow. Looking
at
<!ENTITY % flow "(%text|%block)*">
we see that %flow is defined to be either %flow or %block. Finally,
(an exercise left to the reader :) %block contains P in it.
So, yes, a <P> can occur within <DD>.
PP> I've seen a lot of misuse of tags to acheive a certain look.
PP> Recently I bought "The Webmster's guide to HTML [etc]"... The
PP> book used lists within <blockquotes></blockquote> to get left and
PP> right indents! No style at all... Since people just might try to
PP> use tags for getting "that certain look", why not add attributes
PP> to things like <p> but discourage their use?
PP> Why pretend that people aren't going to do the wrong thing?
PP> Instead, we could provide graceful ways for them to shoot
PP> themselves in the foot if they really want to.
See style sheets.
PP> One other thing... I've been using <p id="Sec4.1"> and then links
PP> like <a href="#Sec4.1"> but this doesn't seem to work. I tried
PP> adding <a name="Sec4.1"<p> and this works better (or more
PP> frequently).
PP> Does anyone actually implement the "id=" attribute?
Maybe Arena, UdiWWW, and emacs-w3? (Yet another wonderful attribute
not supported widely...>sigh<)
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