- From: T. V. Raman <raman@users.sf.net>
- Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:03:33 -0700
- To: ebruchez@orbeon.com
- Cc: u.n.l@gmx.net, www-forms@w3.org, raman@google.com
Further more, the trick in getting XForms right -- and this is what makes it non-trivial -- is to ensure that XForms can both host and be hosted in other languages. So in general it doesn't make much sense for the XForms spec to pretend that AVTs will never show up -- basically if the language in which XForms is hosted supports AVTs --- say a future version of Open Office for instance, then XForms will automatically get AVTs in it. I'm not suggesting that Open Office is certain to have AVTs; I'm just using it as an example. >>>>> "Erik" == Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com> writes: Erik> Ulrich Nicolas Lissé wrote: Erik> >> I even don't see a Pandora's box of processing questions >> open as John stated: It should be clearly stated when >> these AVTs are evaluated and in which context (like it is >> for any other XPath expression in XForms). Erik> Erik> I agree 100%, this is a non-issue. XSLT too has to Erik> define exactly where AVTs can be used. Furthermore, Erik> several XForms implementations already implement AVTs Erik> and their authors have not reported negatively on this Erik> AFAIK. Erik> >> AVTs occurring in non-XForms-markup are not the XForms >> processor's cup of tea. The latter might be dissatisfying >> to form authors attempting to use AVTs in XHTML markup but >> they can't use XPath expressions there too. So this is no >> point against introducing AVTs to XForms in my eyes. Erik> Erik> XForms could allow a host language to use AVTs, and Erik> specify a processing model for those. In fact, I think Erik> that XForms should do just that in 1.2 or 2.0 (AVTs Erik> won't be in 1.1). It doesn't mean that host languages Erik> must implement AVTs, just that they may do so. The Erik> benefits of AVTs are tremendous, in particular with Erik> XHTML. A typical use case is to update the @class or Erik> @style attribute on an XHTML element. Erik> Erik> -Erik Erik> Erik> -- Orbeon - XForms Everywhere: Erik> http://www.orbeon.com/blog/ -- Best Regards, --raman Email: raman@users.sf.net WWW: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM: emacspeak GTalk: tv.raman.tv@gmail.com PGP: http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: tv+raman IRC: irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs
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