- From: Ulrich Nicolas Lissé <u.n.l@gmx.net>
- Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:29:40 +0200
- To: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
- CC: www-forms@w3.org
John,
I just thought of having dynamic attribute(s) on xf:dispatch too. I
think this issue already popped up on the list but frankly speaking I'm
just to lazy to search the archives right now.
However, I think it would be most useful having either @name or @target
or both attributes being computed by XPath expressions. I think @target
is the more interesting case, just like for xf:setfocus/@control and
xf:toggle/@case.
Best,
Uli.
John Boyer wrote:
>
> Hi Ulrich,
>
> Could you send me a quick note, please, to tell me a little more about
> what you want to see for xf:dispatch?
>
> However, I did understand the part about precedence, and yes it will be
> included as we faced the same precedence rule issue when we added
> resource as a child of submission.
>
> Cheers,
> John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
> Senior Product Architect/Research Scientist
> Co-Chair, W3C XForms Working Group
> Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
> IBM Victoria Software Lab
> E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com http://www.ibm.com/software/
>
> Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer
>
>
>
>
> *Ulrich Nicolas Lissé <u.n.l@gmx.net>*
> Sent by: www-forms-request@w3.org
>
> 08/18/2006 04:25 AM
>
>
> To
> John Boyer/CanWest/IBM@IBMCA
> cc
> Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com>, www-forms@w3.org
> Subject
> Re: Can toggle@case or case@selected be calculated?
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> John,
>
> please include <xf:dispatch/> too. And - just for completeness - don't
> forget the precedence stuff (bindings ruling out static attributes ?).
>
> However, I don't like the sub-markup approach that much. I'd prefer a
> @value attribute.
>
> Regards,
> Uli.
>
> John Boyer wrote:
> >
> > I generally like the type of approach Eric describes in which we use a
> > sub-element with a value attribute, where the subelement takes the same
> > name as the attribute it controls.
> >
> > I like it better than ATVs because ATVs open a Pandora's box of
> > processing questions, whereas the subelement/@value idea allows us to
> > add functionality precisely where it's needed in a way that is easy for
> > form authors to grasp and for design environments to recognize.
> >
> > In this case, though, my proposal on today's telecon was to do a
> > spec-ready version of the more specific solution I posted earlier to
> > this list, which was to make available a subelement/@value solution for
> > setting the case of a toggle action and the control of a setfocus, e.g.
> >
> > <toggle>
> > <case value="concat('case-', some/node)"/>
> > </toggle>
> >
> > <setfocus>
> > <control value="concat('control-', some/node)"/>
> > </setfocus>
> >
> > Based on having received the action item to do so on today's telecon, I
> > will be making that spec-ready text available to the WG shortly, but the
> > solution is so easy that I would not be surprised to see implementer
> > feedback even before I finish the formal spec work! Partly because
> > XForms just needs to be able to do this (whereas there's a whole
> > Pandora's box of issues that this solution happily avoids).
> >
> > Best regards,
> > John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
> > Senior Product Architect/Research Scientist
> > Co-Chair, W3C XForms Working Group
> > Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
> > IBM Victoria Software Lab
> > E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com http://www.ibm.com/software/
> >
> > Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com>*
> > Sent by: www-forms-request@w3.org
> >
> > 08/16/2006 11:34 AM
> >
> >
> > To
> > www-forms@w3.org
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > Re: Can toggle@case or case@selected be calculated?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Klotz, Leigh wrote:
> > > Two issues come to mind:
> > > 1. Currently @selected it's defined as an xsd:boolean (an enumeration
> > of the strings "true", "false", "1", and "0".
> > > Unfortunately, "true" isn't an XPath expression that evaluates to
> > "true"; that would have to be "true()", so there's not the smooth
> > upgrade path that it seems like there might be.
> >
> > One possible direction, syntactically, would be to use a nested element,
> > as we may do for xforms:submission in 1.1. E.g.:
> >
> > <xforms:case>
> > <xforms:selected value="instance('my-instance')/my-value = 3"/>
> > ...
> >
> > or something like this. Ideally I would prefer attribute value templates
> > (post-1.1)but as you point out there is a discrepancy between 'true'
> > and true().
> >
> > -Erik
> >
> > --
> > Orbeon - XForms Everywhere:
> > http://www.orbeon.com/blog/
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Ulrich Nicolas Lissé
>
>
>
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Ulrich Nicolas Lissé
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