- From: Eric S. Fisher <efisher@fsystems.com>
- Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:57:45 -0500
- To: "www-forms@w3.org" <www-forms@w3.org>
Forwarded to list per Adrian's request Eric ------- Forwarded message ------- From: "Adrian Baker" <Adrian.Baker@orion.co.nz> To: "Dharmesh Mistry" <Dharmesh.Mistry@edgeipk.com>, "Eric S. Fisher" <efisher@fsystems.com>, www-forms@w3.org Subject: RE: Is or isn't scripting needed, was RE: XForms vs. Web Forms Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:02:19 +1300 When placing out company's bet on form technology, we wanted a clean, non-proprietary way of expressing our forms that could be easily output & maintained by our in-house design tools. Having worked with forms defined and maintained in HTML+script (client customisable on top of that), we breathed a sigh of relief at being able to shift to a declarative non-script based technology. The delivery solution was somewhat secondary, whether we render and handle interactions server side (Chiba) or client side with plugin or native browser support, or transform to PDF, or render to a non-browser-suitable client (think PDA). Or to a Web Forms 2.0 client. And as has been mentioned, we want access to the form validation on the server side regardless. Granted, we're operating firmly in an application development area rather than more casual forms delivered over the Internet : it's a pity to see (quite valid) arguments grounded firmly in the latter not being presented as such. Given the 'difficulty' of adoption of new technology in browsers, a bridging & backwards compatible technology like Web Forms 2.0 seems smart initiative. So again, it's a pity that we're here defending one against the other when both specs are from open non-commercial groups. I know Ian you've stated more than once in and out of the spec that Web Forms 2.0 isn't targeted as a replacement for XForms, and I think some of the reporting hasn't done that justice. But then again a blog by the spec author titled 'XForms Myths' is hardly fuelling co-existence, let alone any sort of collaborative direction, even if it is very well argued & valid. Well, St Patrick's day beckons, along with pubs & green beer. No doubt I'll be drinking cranberry juice tomorrow. Adrian www.orionhealth.com -----Original Message----- From: www-forms-request@w3.org [mailto:www-forms-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Dharmesh Mistry Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:22 a.m. To: Eric S. Fisher; www-forms@w3.org Subject: RE: Is or isn't scripting needed, was RE: XForms vs. Web Forms ... Macromedia say that they plug-in is in over 80% of browsers, Java a similar amount, PDF......What percentage has XForms. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer 1 standards based technology, but as a software company we need to be commercial about placing bets on technology. -- Important Note: This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged, undisclosed or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying, or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. Please inform me immediately and destroy the original transmittal. Thank you for your cooperation.
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