- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:20:43 +0900
- To: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
- CC: www-forms-editor@w3.org, www-forms-editor-request@w3.org, John Boyer <xforms-issues@mn.aptest.com>
Hi John, John Boyer wrote: > > Hi Felix, > > This does not seem at all necessary to require a non-normative > reference to a spec whose definition of a datatype came after our own > definition of the datatype and furthermore whose datatype is not equal > to our own and not in our namespace for that reason. We really need to > shut the spigot on changes so XForms 1.1 can get to the call for > implementations (CR), which this issue would not affect in any case > because it is four-years-old feature. This is not a substantive issue and I'm fine with closing it without a change. Felix > > John M. Boyer, Ph.D. > STSM: Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher > Chair, W3C Forms Working Group > Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software > IBM Victoria Software Lab > E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com > > Blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/JohnBoyer > > > > > *Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>* > Sent by: www-forms-editor-request@w3.org > > 10/21/2007 10:07 PM > > > To > John Boyer <xforms-issues@mn.aptest.com> > cc > www-forms-editor@w3.org > Subject > Re: [XForms 1.1] i18n comment: Reference to definition of data types > missing (PR#7) > > > > > > > > > > > Hi John, > > Sorry if I made myself not clear: I was asking for a reference to an > XQuery specification, not for changing the namespace of the XForms > definitions. I'm especially convinced to not use the XML Schema > namespace by your third reason: the empty strings allowed by the XForms > versions. Nevertheless, I still think a non-normative reference to > XQuery with the explanation about the differences (like you provided > below) would be helpful. > > Felix > > John Boyer wrote: > > Hi Felix, > > > > The working group considered this issue and decide to leave the datatype > > definitions in the XForms namespace for three reasons. First, > XForms is based > > on XML Schema 1.0, so new types will be added to a future version of > XForms when > > an updated version of XML schema is adopted. Second, datatypes in > the XForms > > namespace are more convenient for form authors because they do not > have to be > > namespace qualified in 'type' MIPs. Third, the XForms versions > actually are > > differeent because they also permit empty strings, which is also > more convenient > > for form authoring. > > > > Generally, the latter two reasons are particularly important as they > explain why > > all the xsd simple types have corresponding xforms datatypes. XML > schema has > > the mindset of validating a "full" schema instance, i.e. data that > is about to > > be processed by a server-side business process. This is a bit of a > > technological mismatch for forms, which describe the process for > getting from > > "empty" schema instance to "full" schema instance. > > > > I hope you find this rationale satisfactory. > > > > Best regards, > > John Boyer > > > > > >> Comment from the i18n review of: > >> http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/ > >> > >> Comment 2 > >> At http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0704-xforms11/ > >> Editorial/substantive: S > >> Location in reviewed document: > >> 5.2.3 and 5.2.4 > >> Reference to definition of data types missing > >> > >> Comment: > >> > >> The data types > >> dateTimeDuration > >> and > >> yearMonthDuration > >> are described as XForms data types, but they are data types > defined in the > >> XQuery Data Model > [http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/REC-xpath-datamodel-20070123/] > >> specification. Please provide a reference to this specification > from sec. > >> 5.2.3 and 5.2.4. See also the > >> related comment from the XML Core WG > >> > [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Mar/0007.html] > >> , which is basically the same. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >
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