RE: FW: [was 1 Request Part - 19 of 28] Requested (URL - http://www.swissair.com/download/tt99_00_exe.019)

Well,
You can try to get the missing parts using the getpart command.

Well, I think that the trieste gateway (mail server) will not mail you
back anything that has spent over 12 hours in the queue.

I made some slight adjustments to the sendmail configuration and I think
it would be faster now!

Thanks
Clement Onime

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Chris E wrote:

> I realise that not everyone's server accepts larger packages.  But can you
> tell me:
> 
> 1. Do I need to send a completely new request for this 5.3MB file and risk
> the same thing happening?
> 2. Is there a way that I can re-request the missing pieces with the same
> sized 200k attachments?
> 3. Is there another way to get this file down to my computer that does not
> necessarily involve staying on-line directly on the site for the time
> required?
> 4. I also read somewhere that responses can sometimes take up to 36hours to
> process; is it possible that is happening here and I should just be patient?
> 
> Thank you for your help in this.  This is a fascinating and efficient
> alternative to going onto the internet and spending unnecessary machine time
> and telephone time waiting for internet traffic to clear.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ONIME EHIMIKA OHIREIME [mailto:onime@ictp.trieste.it]
> Sent: Thursday, 21 October 1999 11:37
> To: Chris E
> Cc: www4mail-comments@w3.org; www-email-discuss@w3.org
> Subject: RE: FW: [was 1 Request Part - 19 of 28] Requested (URL -
> http://www.swissair.com/download/tt99_00_exe.019)
> 
> 
> 
> Well
> Chris,
> This really has nothing to do with you.
> I just gave an example.
> I am quite sure that your server allows 13 MB e-mails... However it does
> not work that way for everybody...
> 
> The explanation was for my own mail server... Nothing at your end as
> well..
> 
> Thanks
> Clement
> 
> 
> On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Chris E wrote:
> 
> > File size: each file is actually only 204,800 (the 200k I mentioned).
> >
> > Server file size limit: seems unlimited, as I've received well over
> several
> > MB in a single email before, with no apparent daily allotments either, as
> I
> > received many many emails yesterday AFTER the receipt of the majority of
> > those packages.
> >
> > Delay: the request and the majority of the packages occurred approx 04h00
> > MET, with package #19 arriving fully 20 hours later (beyond the 12 you
> > mentioned.  The email attributes on the package I initially wrote you
> about
> > were:
> >
> > 	Sent (by your server): 20-Oct 4:12am
> > 	Received (by my server): 21-Oct 12:04am
> > 	Created (on my computer): 20-Oct 11:59pm*
> > *Obviously my computer & my provider's server are a little out of sync
> >
> > File types: the file attachments do not appear UUENCODED (as TYPEing these
> > at a DOS prompt should reveal nothing but ASCII characters, no?); instead
> > these appear to be binary files (the TYPE command reveals the full range
> of
> > control characters and the entire 200k is shown within only 3 lines,
> having
> > encounter an EOF character for ASCII purposes)
> >
> > My later request: the GETPART request for the additional parts did not
> > actually produce the desired effect of re-transmitting the missing
> packages
> > indicated.  Given that I've received the bulk of them, is there any means
> of
> > ensuring these get to me in exactly the same packaging format without
> > engaging a complete re-request of the entire 5.3Mb of file?  I scanned
> > through the help items, but did not see anything that would allow me to
> try
> > to receive the entire 5.3Mb in one package, or even 5 of 1Mb each.
> >
> > Thank you for your input.  It sounds like there is something else going on
> > here, different from what you have explained.
> >
> > Please advise.  Thank you.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ONIME EHIMIKA OHIREIME [mailto:onime@ictp.trieste.it]
> > Sent: Thursday, 21 October 1999 9:18
> > To: Chris E
> > Cc: www4mail-comments@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: FW: [was 1 Request Part - 19 of 28] Requested (URL -
> > http://www.swissair.com/download/tt99_00_exe.019)
> >
> >
> >
> > Okay,
> > I can guess what happened
> > 1. www4mail answered correctly [ Mailed all parts]
> > 2. The mail server (sendmail) decides that it is bulk mail and can afford
> > to wait.
> >
> > 3. The files do not get delivered within 12 hours and is deleted from the
> > mail queue.
> >
> > This looks like I have to work on the priority of the mail server.
> >
> > About the size,
> >
> > Each part sent to you should be 276861 bytes...
> > The tendency is that MIME or UUENCODING a file increases it's size by
> > about 30%.  So what www4mail does is to try to ensure that the MIME
> > encoded file + Mail Headers + Text information is about 300K.
> >
> > Anyway, what I mean is that after MIME or UUENCODING the size being sent
> > to you is aproximately 300K.
> >
> > Assuming your mail server has a size limit of 300K on your mail box, then
> > it will refuse to accept a file attachment of 300K because after MIME
> > encoding the message size is now about 390K.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Clement
> >
> > On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Chris E wrote:
> >
> > > I received most parts of this transmission after 4am, but no 19, 22-24,
> > > 26,27 (which I sent a later request for with GETPART -- sometime earlier
> > > today, after noon).  I just received this 19th part fully 19hrs after it
> > was
> > > sent from Trieste to Geneva.  With the internet package timeout being
> what
> > > it is, I thought this was an anomaly worth reporting.  (I removed the
> > > attachment so as not to burden your system, but is was 200k, as were all
> > the
> > > other packages.  Incidentally, I did not request a 200k package size; it
> > is
> > > my understanding the package size should have been 300k.)
> > >
> > > I am still awaiting receipt of parts 22-24, 26-27, which will probably
> now
> > > come through in the next little while.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: WWW by MAIL Gateway [mailto:www4mail@wm.ictp.trieste.it]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 1999 4:12
> > > To: boods@span.ch
> > > Subject: [was 1 Request Part - 19 of 28] Requested (URL -
> > > http://www.swissair.com/download/tt99_00_exe.019)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear User,
> > > Statistics of your (per week) usage of this service
> > > ===================================================
> > > Remaining Quota :	243
> > > Used Quota      :	57
> > > Last access     :
> > >
> > > Details for Current Page
> > > ------------------------
> > > URL             :  http://www.swissair.com/download/tt99_00_exe.0
> > > 			19
> > > Mail Received   :  Wed Oct 20 04:07:04 1999
> > > Request Process :  Wed Oct 20 04:07:08 1999
> > > Delivery Time   :  Wed Oct 20 04:11:28 1999
> > >
> > > HELP TIP:  For more information send the command "help mime"
> > > 	For help with recombining split file(s) request for "help split"
> > >
> > > Please report BUGS to : www4mail-comments@w3.org
> > >
> > > WEB <-> E-mail Gateway V2.0 by The Abdus Salam ICTP, Trieste, Italy.
> > > WWW4MAIL Version 2.2c: For more information send HELP INFO
> > >
> > > Notice: All requests to this service are stored in log files.
> > > Disclaimer: The provider of this service cannot be held responsible for
> > the
> > > contents, presentation or mis-presentation of supplied documents.
> > >
> >
> >
> 
>

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