- From: Dimitris Dimitriadis <dimitris.dimitriadis@improve.se>
- Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:36:28 +0200
- To: "'Arnold, Curt'" <Curt.Arnold@hyprotech.com>, "'www-dom-ts@w3.org'" <www-dom-ts@w3.org>
I've inlined my comments below -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Arnold, Curt [mailto:Curt.Arnold@hyprotech.com] Skickat: den 23 maj 2001 20:51 Till: 'www-dom-ts@w3.org' Ämne: RE: Action item list and agenda for telephone conference Just in case, please Be aware that Monday is a significant legal holiday in the US. Here is are some of the issues that I know of: 1. Use of Java binding like accessors and mutators I'll update the schema to use IDL like accessors and mutators. There will be some loss of constraint checking but the number of read-write properties is small. *** I look forward to reading your schema. Hve you thought about working towards a common schema or endign up with two? 2. No mechanism for in-line metadata I would suggest either adding to the content model of <test>, <suite> and the assertions either a <metadata> element with a very permissive content model or a <rdf:RDF> element. However, with the acknowledgement that external metadata is expected and that in-line metadata should be reserved for (relatively) fixed metadata (for example, author or source, not test results for a particular processor) *** I'm happy either way, as long as we agree. There is in teh NIST proposal a fixed set of information about the test (not the suite) which covers all the things you mention. As a question, though, what external metadata would be expected? I assumed that all relevant metadata would be inlined in the test decritpion itself. 3. Test packaging Suite definition is currently supported by placing test definitions within <suite> elements. Preferable to have tests as independent XML documents. I propose defining <suite> with <test href=".."/> children as an interim approach but think that we might eventually use EARL to define test packaging. *** Independent XML documents is precisely where we wanted to end up. Packaging the in a suite construct is very straightforward. I look forward to further discussing the possible use of the EARL framework. Have you received any feedback from that community? 4. Identifying test documents I had defined a <document> element to provide some mechanism for indirection, however that is definitely inadequate. I propose switching <load> back to using a URI to identify the test document but with the expectation that a mechanism outside of the test definition (RDDL?) would be used to resolve the test URI to an local resource. *** Sure, that could be one way of doing it. I anticipate implementor's various harnesses to deal with that to the largest possible extent so as not to burden the DOM TS framework. 5. Lack of usable XML schemas for DCMES and EARL The XML schema for DCMES seems pretty strange on a quick read and I'm pretty sure that it is not valid. I don't know of an XML Schema for EARL. There is an (non-normative) XML Schema for RDF on the schema home page. 6. Lack of visibility (at least from outside the DOM WG) I haven't seen the existing XSLT transform for Java and ECMAScript. I assume they are against the NIST DTD and maybe against the NIST testing framework. Since I'm spending a good deal of personal time on this, it would be good to have some idea that I'm not replicating work that is already going on. It would be very helpful if people could publicly state at least what they are thinking about working on or need for their continued progress. *** With all due respect, and totally acknowledging your point, I don't think introducing a radically different framework was the best way to minimize time invested. In any case, your framework had lots of very good solutions, so I look forward to our working together in the same direction (today is actually a holiday where I live, so I've also invested personal time) 7. Coordination with XML Schema test development I've pinged the xmlschema-dev list to see if they could share their approach to test metadata. *** I did this some time ago, but haven't received any useful information. Thanks for reminding them, let's just hope that they respond quickly.
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