- From: Jakob Hummes <hummes@eurecom.fr>
- Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 16:44:41 +0100
- To: Elizabeth Frank <efrank@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
- CC: www-annotation@w3.org
Elizabeth Frank wrote: > I think that the annotation needs are being met in other ways. I agree that also other annotation systems are needed. Especially, annotations for group members working on the same project are valuable. Systems exist for those annotations. > For related topics there are forums, hypernews-like systems, related link > pages and web rings. Yes, but you're only aware about them, if a) you're member in one of these foren, or b) the visisted Web page actually supports them (has a link to them). > The only annotations that aren't supported are the third party review type > which doesn't involve the primary site. As others in this thread have mentioned, > there doesn't seem to be a high enough demand for that type of annotation > to get past the scalability and content value issues. Not sure about it. Before something is invented there is rarley a need for it, what means: Nobody can tell you, before you have a running system. Then you may look on the acceptance rate. > I have trouble coming up with a scenario that requires the third party annotation > services you are talking about. I would classify Alexa (www.alexa.com) as a first step in that direction. While Alexa only offer links to related Web pages it shares some properties: It's independent of the Web sites and shows you also links, which are not in the interest of the visited host (e.g. competitors). However, while Alexa includes also a basic rating system, links are mainly generated by user statistics. Third party annotation may be very powerful: - Users that visit a Web page share a common interest. You could look on annotations of an URL as a newsgroup with the URL as topic. As well as you need a powerful filtering system for reading highly frequented newsgroups (kill file, recommandation system, others), you'll need it for annotations of frequently visited and annotated Web pages. - Annotations do not need necessarely be persistent (forever). They could expire as postings in newsgroups. - Annotations may be synchron. Then you would be aware about who is visiting the Web page at the same time as you. You could combine it with a chat tool. Something like ICQ, but with URLs as the common denominator. - Competitors will love them. Now Netscape can advertise their advantages over IE on the Microsoft pages :-) - Scientists will love them. Leave an online review of an article as annotation and have a link to your publications. - Consumers will love them. If I'm going to buy the new vacuum cleaner from X, I would be delighted to see the promotional offer by Y, which is 10% off. I have a lot of use cases, where third party annotations may create value-adds. However, it can be assumed that most annotations are crap. So you need also a powerful filter. On the other side: How do you find right now interesting Web pages? You perform also some filter operations either manually or automated... Greetings, - Jakob -- WORK: HOME: Jakob Hummes Jakob Hummes EURECOM 66, chemin de l'Ermitage 2229, route des Cretes 06600 Antibes B.P. 193 Tel: (+33) (0)4 93 61 38 16 06904 Sophia Antipolis Cedex FRANCE Tel: (+33) (0)4 93 00 26 70 WWW: http://www.eurecom.fr/~hummes Fax: (+33) (0)4 93 00 26 27
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