- From: David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 06:17:51 -0500 (EST)
- To: hutch@psfc.mit.edu
- CC: www-math@w3.org, www-amaya@w3.org
Would it be possible for you to make available the mml that you used in the tests? It is hard to really draw a judgement on comments such as > Semantic difficulty is possibly implied by the excessively > large parentheses on Es(ws), unless the mathml input is available. > but appears to require upright to be explicitly specified as well as > bold to behave in standard TeX fashion, I believe that is the correct behaviour. (Also in TeX it is perfectly possible to switch to bold without being upright. eg \boldsymbol or \bm in latex). You are probably refering to the behaviour of \bf but that just selects a bold upright roman font for letters and doesn't make symbols bold at all, which probably isn't the semantics you would want for a fontweight="bold" attribute! In many ways of course it is fairer to compare tth with using gif images. (Which I know that you are quite willing to do:-) In that they both produce something that is essentially `read only'. MathML, even presentation MathML as tested here, is passing the mathematics to the browser in some half way sensible format so that it may be possible (eventually:-) to cut and paste sub expressions and do searches. This does of course have an impact on the amount of work that needs to be done in the browser. MathML technology is in its infancy and improving. I do not doubt your conclusions that _today_ a typical user (whatever that may mean) may not want to pay the price in terms of speed. But with a bit of luck things may be better next year... > A difficulty all browsers are going to have with MathML is that the > entity list is immense and there are numerous synonyms, so supporting > the whole standard is going to be tough and there is no accepted subset > choice that can be regarded as a de-facto standard. It would be possible to make a list of those entities that could be mapped to the glyphs (or combinations thereof)in the ISO latin-1 and adobe symbol font encodings. But probably trying to define such a core minimal set would not be useful as it is hard to give restrictions when authoring based on the capabilities present on a remote browser. Probably better would be for the browsers to accept all the entities but just do something recognisable if they do not have a suitable font available. (ie outputting the entity name in red would be preferable to just silently skipping over the symbol). The whole question of what symbols are available, and what entities should point at them will probably have to be looked at again in the future if the STIX proposal (or something like it) succeeds in getting an agreed set of mathematical symbols into unicode. David
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