- From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 16:10:47 -0400
- To: "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Link: http://www.w3.org/2014/05/27-aapi-minutes.html
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[1]W3C
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Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
27 May 2014
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2014/05/27-aapi-irc
Attendees
Present
Joseph_Scheuhammer, Bryan_Garaventa, David_Bolter,
Cynthia_Shelly
Regrets
Joanie_Diggs
Chair
Joseph_Scheuhammer
Scribe
clown, cyns
Contents
* [3]Topics
* [4]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 27 May 2014
<clown> zakim GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
<clown> agenda: this
<clown> scribenick: clown
take up item 3
action-1434?
<trackbot> action-1434 -- David Bolter to Contact matt king
regarding issue-481, especially regarding multi-process -- due
2014-05-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[5]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1434
[5] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1434
JS: You spoke with Matt?
DB: Yes.
... He wants us to keep it on the radar, but could we move it
to 2.0 for now?
JS: We can.
DB: He prefers assigning it to 2.0 rather than closing it.
JS: Does anyone object?
BG: I don't
JS: Does that mean moving the issue itself to 2.0 as well?
issue-481?
<trackbot> issue-481 -- aria-live removal events should or must
happen before object removal -- open
<trackbot> [6]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/481
[6] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/481
JS: There is no UAIG 2.0 product in tracker, so I will move
this to ARIA 2.0 for now.
... I will discuss with Michael about making a UAIG 2.0
product.
... action-1434 closed, and issue-481 moved to ARIA 2.0 time
frame.
Take up item 1
JS: First two items are just news.
<scribe> scribenick: cyns
JS: going ahead with heartbeat pub in early June. these will be
public working drafts of spec, UAIG and best practices
<clown> take up item 2
JS: consensus was to move to bugzilla, but to do it gradually.
... we'll leave existing issues in tracker, and make new ones
in bugzilla. Not sure of exact date. Will do here after it's
done at a monday call.
... there was discussion of creating bugzillas for each action,
leaving issues where they are.
... there is work in the background to find an IRC bot for
bugzilla.
... if you have issues with this, email michael cooper
CS: I'm happy we're moving to bugzilla
<clown>
[7]https://www.w3.org/2014/05/21-pf-editors-minutes.html#item02
[7] https://www.w3.org/2014/05/21-pf-editors-minutes.html#item02
<clown> take up item 4
<clown> action-1444?
<trackbot> action-1444 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Investigate the
ideal atk/at-spi2 mapping for role presentation in tables and
lists. -- due 2014-06-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[8]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1444
[8] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1444
<clown> [9]https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1013584
[9] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1013584
JS: joanie has looked at both gdk and gecko, and has filed bugs
against them. doesn't like what they're doing now. see links
for details
... alexander surkov has agreed to change mapping from text.
James thinks it should be paragraph. Joanie thinks div, because
of orca paragraph nav.
BG: makes sense to me
JS: there is mapping for div in html5 mapping guide.
CS: it's group
JS: group and/or section
... joanie not sure on section
... should we state what we want or reference HTML mapping for
div. my pref is to state what we want.
CS: why do you prefer defining it ourselves, rather than
refrerence?
JS: because ARIA is for more than html
... for required owned elements that are presentational, they
become xxx. for more detail, see html mapping, svg mapping,
etc.
<clown> take up item 5
<clown> ACTION-1445?
<trackbot> ACTION-1445 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate the
ideal uai mapping for role presentation in tables and lists. --
due 2014-06-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[10]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1445
[10] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1445
CS: 1445 still open, due next week
<clown> take up item 6
<clown> ACTION-1338?
<trackbot> ACTION-1338 -- Michael Cooper to Patch issue-504:
Update radio and option in spec an taxonomy -- due 2014-01-30
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[11]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1338
[11] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1338
<clown>
[12]http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/implementation/aria-imple
mentation.html#mapping_state-property_table
[12] http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/implementation/aria-implementation.html#mapping_state-property_table
<clown>
[13]http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/implementation/aria-imple
mentation.html#mapping_role_table
[13] http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/implementation/aria-implementation.html#mapping_role_table
<clown> If aria-checked is not undefined, support object
attribute checkable:true
<clown> issue-504?
<trackbot> issue-504 -- radio shouldn't have aria-selected --
closed
<trackbot> [14]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/504
[14] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/504
JS: do we want to make this change?
CS: +1
BG: +1
JS: will check with Joanie. If she's ok, we'll open an action
to remove special case sentences in option mapping row.
<clown> take up itme 7
<clown> take up item 7
<clown> action-1320?
<trackbot> action-1320 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Consider
mapping the "offscreen" api properties in the situation of
aria-hidden="false" on non-rendered elements. -- due 2013-12-23
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1320
[15] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1320
CS: I still consider this technique to be an anti-pattern.
JS: I don't think FF will change
CS: IE either.
JS: currently aria-hidden=false is the default
... let it lie a bit, and see if there is new interest. Moving
due date out to December.
<clown> action-1343?
<trackbot> action-1343 -- Cynthia Shelly to Define a mapping in
the uaig that covered aria-hidden="false" in all situations -
including when a hidden attribute is applied. -- due 2014-01-30
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1343
[16] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1343
<clown> action-1372?
<trackbot> action-1372 -- Cynthia Shelly to Create a test case,
if there is none, to test the rowgroup role -- due 2014-04-08
-- OPEN
<trackbot>
[17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1372
[17] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1372
CS: push out to june 24
<clown> action-1373?
<trackbot> action-1373 -- Cynthia Shelly to Create a test case
for when aria-posinset and aria-setsize are provided explicitly
on some but not all elements. -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1373
[18] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1373
CS: push out to June 24
JS: new business?
<clown> scribenick: clown
s/take up item 3/Topic: ISSUE-481/ACTION-1434 (David): Contact
Matt King regarding issue-481, especially regarding
multi-process/
s/take up item 3/Topic: ISSUE-481\/ACTION-1434 (David): Contact
Matt King regarding issue-481, especially regarding
multi-process/
Summary of Action Items
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