- From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:00:45 -0500
- To: "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Link: https://www.w3.org/2012/12/20-aapi-minutes.html
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
20 Dec 2012
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2012Dec/0005.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2012/12/20-aapi-irc
Attendees
Present
Joseph_Scheuhammer, Cynthia_Shelly
Regrets
David, Bolter
Chair
Joseph Scheuhammer
Scribe
clown
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]issues and actions
* [6]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 20 December 2012
davidb: you can call in now (aapi meeting).
<scribe> scribenick: clown
CS: will be out for the next three weeks.
JS: will be on holidays for the next week and a bit.
... could do another meeting in two weeks.
CS: depends on who is available.
JS: David is away until Jan 3
issues and actions
issue-486?
<trackbot> ISSUE-486 -- UAIG has some MUST requirements that
could only be tested in HTML 5, but 1) the ARIA spec is being
tested only against HTML 4 and we prefer to do the same with
UAIG, and 2) HTML 5 isn't complete; so we need to deal with
this in the UAIG CR exit criteria n -- open
<trackbot> [7]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/486
[7] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/486
CS: the text about mapping conflicts might be in the aria spec,
so that it could be removed from the UAIG, or made into a note.
JS: it may well be that the test harness already has test cases
covering the MUSTs in the mapping conflict section. Someone
needs to check.
CS: note that tabindex='0' is implemented all over the place,
and is more like an HTML 4 extension.
... may be okay to remove the reference to HTML5 with respect
to tabindex='0'
<scribe> ACTION: Joseph to remove reference to HTML5 @alt
section in the UAIG name calculation section. [recorded in
[8]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/20-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
[8] http://www.w3.org/2012/12/20-aapi-minutes.html#action01
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1142 - Remove reference to HTML5 @alt
section in the UAIG name calculation section. [on Joseph
Scheuhammer - due 2012-12-27].
JS: Joseph will take the other suggestions back to the PF group
re: ISSUE-486
issue-546?
<trackbot> ISSUE-546 -- When aria-invalid="true/false", the
state mapping table is misleading for UIA. -- open
<trackbot> [9]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/546
[9] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/546
[10]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_state
-property_table
[10] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_state-property_table
CS: <looks at table, and tests>
<cyns>
[11]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pfwg/raw-file/tip/ARIA/1.0/tests/tes
t-files/roles-properties-global/roles-properties-global-main-ar
ia-invalid-true.html
[11] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/pfwg/raw-file/tip/ARIA/1.0/tests/test-files/roles-properties-global/roles-properties-global-main-aria-invalid-true.html
[12]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/states_and_properties#global_
states
[12] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/states_and_properties#global_states
CS: we may have to modify the the tests because IE doesn't
really implement landmark roles in UIA
... this test case uses role="main"
... if the aria-invalid was on a widget role, it would probably
work.
... but, that raises an issue — does the test count if it has
to be on a widget role
<scribe> ACTION: Cynthia to (1) identify what pattern that
invalid is mapped to (2) to see if it's implemented for widget
roles [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/20-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
[13] http://www.w3.org/2012/12/20-aapi-minutes.html#action02
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1143 - (1) identify what pattern that
invalid is mapped to (2) to see if it's implemented for widget
roles [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2012-12-27].
CS: for the rest of the actions, I have not done any testing.
... Rich and I are hoping to get some of Jon's students to do
some IE testing.
action-842?
<trackbot> ACTION-842 -- Cynthia Shelly to create a diagram to
support 1.2 A11Y vs DOM tree -- due 2011-06-21 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[14]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/842
[14] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/842
CS: looking for someone to do a better graphic,
... but it's not a deal breaker if it's not in the UAIG.
action-851?
<trackbot> ACTION-851 -- Andi Snow-Weaver to look through APG
design patterns re: menus for examples that relate to UAIG
5.8.4 -- due 2011-06-28 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/851
[15] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/851
JS: that was work I did back in 2011 and assigned it back to
Andi
CS: assign it to me and I'll touch base with Andi.
JS: done.
action-973?
<trackbot> ACTION-973 -- Cynthia Shelly to work with David
Bolter and Larry Weiss to create testable statements for UAIG
4.2 Controlling focus with tabindex, bullet 11 -- due
2012-03-13 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/973
[16] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/973
CS: partially complete, but not done.
... let's move the due date to Feb 1, 2013
action-982?
<trackbot> ACTION-982 -- Cynthia Shelly to create UIA special
case test cases from existing generated test cases. -- due
2012-03-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[17]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/982
[17] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/982
CS: some done, by not complete
action-1104?
<trackbot> ACTION-1104 -- Cynthia Shelly to define what the
accessibility API mapping is for UIA on aria-describedby in
section 5.5.1 table when the element does not exist in the
accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies --
due 2012-08-06 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104
[18] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104
CS: let's change the date to Feb 1
action-1114?
<trackbot> ACTION-1114 -- Cynthia Shelly to cynthia to e-mail
James about the UAIG rule on how to role tokens must be mapped
(Comment 373) -- due 2012-10-02 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[19]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1114
[19] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1114
CS: I approve the change.
JS: I'll assign to me to do the actual edits.
action-847?
<trackbot> ACTION-847 -- Michael Cooper to create script to
hide columns at user choice in UAIG tables to yield less wide
tables -- due 2011-06-21 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/847
[20] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/847
CS: let's ask Jason to do this since he knows how.
JS: okay.
CS: probably next meeting is Jan 17, unless you and David want
ot meet earlier.
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Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Cynthia to (1) identify what pattern that invalid
is mapped to (2) to see if it's implemented for widget roles
[recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/20-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Joseph to remove reference to HTML5 @alt section
in the UAIG name calculation section. [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/20-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
[21] http://www.w3.org/2012/12/20-aapi-minutes.html#action02
[22] http://www.w3.org/2012/12/20-aapi-minutes.html#action01
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