Minutes: [aapi] UAI TF Meeting Agenda, 12 Dec 2012

Link:  http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-aapi-minutes.html

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    [1]W3C

       [1] http://www.w3.org/

                                - DRAFT -

            Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
                               13 Dec 2012

    [2]Agenda

       [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2012Dec/0002.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-aapi-irc

Attendees

    Present
           David, Joseph

    Regrets
           Cynthia

    Chair
           Joseph

    Scribe
           clown

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]Issues and Actions
      * [6]Summary of Action Items
      __________________________________________________________

    <trackbot> Date: 13 December 2012

    <davidb> "The conference is restricted at this time"

    <davidb> worth a try

    davidb, I'm following this

    [7]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Teleconference_cheat_sheet

       [7] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Teleconference_cheat_sheet

    <davidb> ping MichaelC_

    MichaelC_ are you there?

    invite zakim #aapi

    davidb, I have this from an email from a W3C admin "The Zakim
    request has been completed in the system. The details are not
    populating to the meetings calendar page, but the can be found
    below. And the first meeting will be Thursday Dec. 13, 2012
    (this week). I deleted the previous meeting going forward after
    today's meeting."

    <davidb> hmm maybe time zone miscomm?

    <davidb> the best case scenario is no meeting today!

    <davidb> hello out there!

    <davidb> I will be famous foreveh!

    here is more info from that email. Looks fairly normal. Let me
    check something else. WAI_PFWG(AAPI)

    [8]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/

       [8] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/

    Thursdays
    [9]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1
    1&day=20&year=2012&hour=19&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 1:00pm-2:00pm
    Boston local)

       [9] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=11&day=20&year=2012&hour=19&min=00&sec=0&p1=0

    Zakim Bridge tel:+1.617.761.6200, conference 2274 ("AAPI")

    trackbot, associate this channel with #pf

    <trackbot> Associating this channel with #pf...

    well, we have minutes, but we can't talk to one another … do we
    have to?

    that is, what can we do without talking?

    btw, cynthia cannot make it, so I was planning to clear up any
    FF issues, davidb.

    <davidb> ok well i'm working away here otherwise… so no harm

    davidb, one of the commands to entier is "/invite zakim #aapi".
    I've done that repeatedly, but there is no response either in
    terms of success nor failure.

    I'm going to drop into #uawg to see if there is anything
    there...

    <davidb> alrighty

    "uawg" looks suspiciously like user agent working group.

    of course not.

    davidb, just tried dialing in with both the aapi and the uawg
    passcodes, and I get the same restricted bit.

    tlr, jeanne, which conference are you attending?

    might be. I'm guilty of doing that.

    <jeanne> User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group

    I don't know how to give it back...

    <tlr> jeanne, you can just pull it back

    sorry, thought it was our conference.

    <jeanne> what's the syntax to move it back?

    davidb, I don't think zakim was properly configured for our
    meeting. I'll have to contact Michael via email to ask him what
    happened,

    <davidb> sounds right

    I don't see a "AAPI" conference in that list above. do you?

    <davidb> nope

    well, do you want to talk by skype? and we can get something
    done?

    <davidb> sure

    scrtibenick: clown

    regrets Cynthia

Issues and Actions

    [10]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10

      [10] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10

    issue-486?

    <trackbot> ISSUE-486 -- UAIG has some MUST requirements that
    could only be tested in HTML 5, but 1) the ARIA spec is being
    tested only against HTML 4 and we prefer to do the same with
    UAIG, and 2) HTML 5 isn't complete; so we need to deal with
    this in the UAIG CR exit criteria n -- open

    <trackbot> [11]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/486

      [11] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/486

    <scribe> ACTION: joseph to ask the PFWG on the Mon call, what
    issue-486 is all about. [recorded in
    [12]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-aapi-minutes.html#action01]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-1136 - Ask the PFWG on the Mon call,
    what issue-486 is all about. [on Joseph Scheuhammer - due
    2012-12-20].

    issue-543?

    <trackbot> ISSUE-543 -- Mapping of aria-disabled='true' not
    correct for ATK/AT-SPI -- open

    <trackbot> [13]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/543

      [13] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/543

    resolved: ISSUE-543 — there is no UNAVAILABLE state in AT-SPI.
    The UAIG is correct with respect to aria-disabled and ATSP. No
    change needed.

    <davidb> \o/

    issue-456?

    <trackbot> ISSUE-456 -- Forward compatibility and overlap
    between abstract roles and patterns -- raised

    <trackbot> [14]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/456

      [14] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/456

    resolved: ISSUE-456 — moved to ARIA 2.0

    <davidb> \o/

    action-248?

    <trackbot> ACTION-248 -- David Bolter to [ARIA 2.0] Provide a
    technique if available to ensure an AT can modify a state or
    property without a page reload -- due 2010-01-30 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [15]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/248

      [15] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/248

    resolved: Move due date of ACTION-248 to Aug 2013 as this is an
    ARIA 2.0 issue.

    action-983?

    <trackbot> ACTION-983 -- David Bolter to create MSAA/IA2
    special case test cases from existing generated test cases for
    the tables. -- due 2012-03-14 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [16]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/983

      [16] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/983

    <scribe> ACTION: Joseph to ask PFWG at Mon meeting for details
    concerning ACTION-983. [recorded in
    [17]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-aapi-minutes.html#action02]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-1137 - Ask PFWG at Mon meeting for
    details concerning ACTION-983. [on Joseph Scheuhammer - due
    2012-12-20].

    [18]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/ARIA/Tests/Testable_Statement
    s#AT-SPI_States_and_Properties

      [18] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/ARIA/Tests/Testable_Statements#AT-SPI_States_and_Properties

    [19]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/ARIA/Tests/Testable_Statement
    s#AT-SPI_Special_Case_Testable_Statements

      [19] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/ARIA/Tests/Testable_Statements#AT-SPI_Special_Case_Testable_Statements

    close action-1137

    <trackbot> ACTION-1137 Ask PFWG at Mon meeting for details
    concerning ACTION-983. closed

    discussion between David and Joseph about what acion-1137 is
    about. David will start working on it — special case testable
    statement for MSAA/IA2

    action-1102?

    <trackbot> ACTION-1102 -- David Bolter to get someone to look
    at the SHOULD statements in the Role Mapping table. Can these
    be changed from "SHOULD be exposed" to "expose as" -- due
    2012-07-25 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [20]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1102

      [20] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1102

    david: i will look into this next week.
    ... we should get Cynthia to confirm after I've done my
    analysis.

    <davidb> I also want to run something by Alex

    joseph: okay, we've run out of time.
    ... we at least got through the issues and actions that relate
    to FF, IA2, MSAA and/or ATSPI.
    ... let's meet againg next Thursday because after that is the
    holiday break.

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: Joseph to ask PFWG at Mon meeting for details
    concerning ACTION-983. [recorded in
    [21]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
    [NEW] ACTION: joseph to ask the PFWG on the Mon call, what
    issue-486 is all about. [recorded in
    [22]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-aapi-minutes.html#action01]

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