- From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:16:33 -0500
- To: "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Link: http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-aapi-minutes.html
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
13 Dec 2012
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2012Dec/0002.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-aapi-irc
Attendees
Present
David, Joseph
Regrets
Cynthia
Chair
Joseph
Scribe
clown
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Issues and Actions
* [6]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 13 December 2012
<davidb> "The conference is restricted at this time"
<davidb> worth a try
davidb, I'm following this
[7]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Teleconference_cheat_sheet
[7] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Teleconference_cheat_sheet
<davidb> ping MichaelC_
MichaelC_ are you there?
invite zakim #aapi
davidb, I have this from an email from a W3C admin "The Zakim
request has been completed in the system. The details are not
populating to the meetings calendar page, but the can be found
below. And the first meeting will be Thursday Dec. 13, 2012
(this week). I deleted the previous meeting going forward after
today's meeting."
<davidb> hmm maybe time zone miscomm?
<davidb> the best case scenario is no meeting today!
<davidb> hello out there!
<davidb> I will be famous foreveh!
here is more info from that email. Looks fairly normal. Let me
check something else. WAI_PFWG(AAPI)
[8]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/
[8] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/
Thursdays
[9]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1
1&day=20&year=2012&hour=19&min=00&sec=0&p1=0 1:00pm-2:00pm
Boston local)
[9] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=11&day=20&year=2012&hour=19&min=00&sec=0&p1=0
Zakim Bridge tel:+1.617.761.6200, conference 2274 ("AAPI")
trackbot, associate this channel with #pf
<trackbot> Associating this channel with #pf...
well, we have minutes, but we can't talk to one another … do we
have to?
that is, what can we do without talking?
btw, cynthia cannot make it, so I was planning to clear up any
FF issues, davidb.
<davidb> ok well i'm working away here otherwise… so no harm
davidb, one of the commands to entier is "/invite zakim #aapi".
I've done that repeatedly, but there is no response either in
terms of success nor failure.
I'm going to drop into #uawg to see if there is anything
there...
<davidb> alrighty
"uawg" looks suspiciously like user agent working group.
of course not.
davidb, just tried dialing in with both the aapi and the uawg
passcodes, and I get the same restricted bit.
tlr, jeanne, which conference are you attending?
might be. I'm guilty of doing that.
<jeanne> User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group
I don't know how to give it back...
<tlr> jeanne, you can just pull it back
sorry, thought it was our conference.
<jeanne> what's the syntax to move it back?
davidb, I don't think zakim was properly configured for our
meeting. I'll have to contact Michael via email to ask him what
happened,
<davidb> sounds right
I don't see a "AAPI" conference in that list above. do you?
<davidb> nope
well, do you want to talk by skype? and we can get something
done?
<davidb> sure
scrtibenick: clown
regrets Cynthia
Issues and Actions
[10]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
[10] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
issue-486?
<trackbot> ISSUE-486 -- UAIG has some MUST requirements that
could only be tested in HTML 5, but 1) the ARIA spec is being
tested only against HTML 4 and we prefer to do the same with
UAIG, and 2) HTML 5 isn't complete; so we need to deal with
this in the UAIG CR exit criteria n -- open
<trackbot> [11]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/486
[11] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/486
<scribe> ACTION: joseph to ask the PFWG on the Mon call, what
issue-486 is all about. [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1136 - Ask the PFWG on the Mon call,
what issue-486 is all about. [on Joseph Scheuhammer - due
2012-12-20].
issue-543?
<trackbot> ISSUE-543 -- Mapping of aria-disabled='true' not
correct for ATK/AT-SPI -- open
<trackbot> [13]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/543
[13] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/543
resolved: ISSUE-543 — there is no UNAVAILABLE state in AT-SPI.
The UAIG is correct with respect to aria-disabled and ATSP. No
change needed.
<davidb> \o/
issue-456?
<trackbot> ISSUE-456 -- Forward compatibility and overlap
between abstract roles and patterns -- raised
<trackbot> [14]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/456
[14] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/456
resolved: ISSUE-456 — moved to ARIA 2.0
<davidb> \o/
action-248?
<trackbot> ACTION-248 -- David Bolter to [ARIA 2.0] Provide a
technique if available to ensure an AT can modify a state or
property without a page reload -- due 2010-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/248
[15] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/248
resolved: Move due date of ACTION-248 to Aug 2013 as this is an
ARIA 2.0 issue.
action-983?
<trackbot> ACTION-983 -- David Bolter to create MSAA/IA2
special case test cases from existing generated test cases for
the tables. -- due 2012-03-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/983
[16] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/983
<scribe> ACTION: Joseph to ask PFWG at Mon meeting for details
concerning ACTION-983. [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1137 - Ask PFWG at Mon meeting for
details concerning ACTION-983. [on Joseph Scheuhammer - due
2012-12-20].
[18]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/ARIA/Tests/Testable_Statement
s#AT-SPI_States_and_Properties
[18] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/ARIA/Tests/Testable_Statements#AT-SPI_States_and_Properties
[19]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/ARIA/Tests/Testable_Statement
s#AT-SPI_Special_Case_Testable_Statements
[19] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/ARIA/Tests/Testable_Statements#AT-SPI_Special_Case_Testable_Statements
close action-1137
<trackbot> ACTION-1137 Ask PFWG at Mon meeting for details
concerning ACTION-983. closed
discussion between David and Joseph about what acion-1137 is
about. David will start working on it — special case testable
statement for MSAA/IA2
action-1102?
<trackbot> ACTION-1102 -- David Bolter to get someone to look
at the SHOULD statements in the Role Mapping table. Can these
be changed from "SHOULD be exposed" to "expose as" -- due
2012-07-25 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1102
[20] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1102
david: i will look into this next week.
... we should get Cynthia to confirm after I've done my
analysis.
<davidb> I also want to run something by Alex
joseph: okay, we've run out of time.
... we at least got through the issues and actions that relate
to FF, IA2, MSAA and/or ATSPI.
... let's meet againg next Thursday because after that is the
holiday break.
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Joseph to ask PFWG at Mon meeting for details
concerning ACTION-983. [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: joseph to ask the PFWG on the Mon call, what
issue-486 is all about. [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2012/12/13-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
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