- From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:14:11 -0500
- To: Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>
- Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>, Barry McMullin <barry.mcmullin@dcu.ie>
Hi Josh, Here are a few more longdesc use cases in the wild: Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/examinations/supervisory/insights/siwin09/Interest_Rate_Risk.html http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/examinations/supervisory/insights/siwin09/Interest_Rate_Risk.html Hawaii's Public Schools: Seizures Flow Chart http://doe.k12.hi.us/specialeducation/SpEdHandbook2006/06appendix_a.htm#SeizureAlgorithm http://doe.k12.hi.us/specialeducation/SpEdHandbook2006/06appendix_a_seizure flowchartlongdesc.htm Interagency Committee on Disability Research (ICDR) http://www.icdr.us/atreportweb/sec4/strength.htm#chart3 http://www.icdr.us/atreportweb/longdesc/chart3.html Health and Safety Executive http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/strategiesandplans/hscplans/strategicplan0104/plan0104-09.htm#httpwwwhsegovukaboutusstrategiesandplanshscplansstrategicplan0104plan010409longdeschtmLongdescriptionavailable http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/strategiesandplans/hscplans/strategicplan0104/plan0104-09longdesc.htm Commuter Choice Primer Research and Innovative Technology Administration (RITA) Department of Transportation http://ntl.bts.gov/lib/jpodocs/repts_pr/13669/section03.htm http://ntl.bts.gov/lib/jpodocs/repts_pr/13669/long_desc_figure1.htm Best Regards, Laura On 8/23/10, Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie> wrote: > Hi, > > I have come across a couple of interesting @longdesc use cases. The > first is by Laura Carslon which used "A11y Resolved Bug Comparisons" > graphs and pie charts. Describing a pie chart and graph like the > examples Laura provide would be extremely difficult without an attribute > like @longdesc, if you don't want the descriptions to appear inline. [1] > > To expand on this problem, the need for an off page long descriptor is > made even clearer in the following example from 2006 (courtesy of Prof. > Barry McMullin of DCU) which he describes as a "Double-negative use > case". [2] > > To explain - I will quote Barry directly from the CFIT website. > > "Double-negative" because longdesc is not being used here — but I would > have liked to use it, and its use would have been absolutely > appropriate! It's just that weak user-agent support meant that using it > would potentially have left the long description actually unavailable to > people who might benefit from it. So instead, I decided to compromise > (somewhat) the experience of people who already could perceive the > graphical image perfectly well, and exposed the long description for all > users (even though it is redundant for the majority). This decision > then, logically, had the further effect of requiring an explanation — > for those majority users — of what a long description is and why — which > explanation, in turn, is redundant for those users who would normally > actually benefit from a long description! > > I humbly suggest that such a convoluted (nay, "traumatic"!) design > decision — genuinely existing "in the wild" — should count as legitimate > evidence of the use-case-need for longdesc!?" [3] > > To me the above example, compounds the first and illustrates that an off > page long descriptor is very much needed but due to the authors concerns > about UA support etc he decided /not/ to use it. This implies that: > > 1) A long descriptor, that can potentially reference a URI and can be > recognised and handled in a way that is conducive to a positive user > experience for an AT user is actually needed. > > 1) The consequences of having to include a very verbose description > inline can be problematic in terms of page bloat, potential perceived > complexity for users with cognitive disabilities and possibly other > usability issues, such as general confusion as to the descriptions > purpose for non-users of AT. > > Josh > > [1] http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/html5bugchart/20100821/ > [2] http://www.aishe.org/readings/2007-1/No-14.html#x20-19300014.6 > [3] http://www.cfit.ie/news-and-commentary-archive/525-longdesc-rip > > > -- Laura L. Carlson
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