- From: David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net>
- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:50:43 -0500
- To: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
- Cc: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Robert J Burns <rob@robburns.com>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, Leif Halvard Silli <lhs@malform.no>, James Graham <jgraham@opera.com>, Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>, Steve Axthelm <steveax@pobox.com>, Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com>, HTMLWG <public-html@w3.org>, wai-xtech@w3.org, wai-liaison@w3.org, janina@rednote.net, Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>, Matt Morgan-May <mattmay@adobe.com>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>
<p> this is a layout table. <p> there is no summary for this table... Now, where was that little d? Not picking on you but we need programatic association and clear markup which @summary provides today. On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:23 AM, David Poehlman <poehlman1@comcast.net> wrote: > What actually mystifies me and I've been following every nuounce of > the > conversation over a long span on several lists is that there has not > been > shown to be anything satisfactorily demonstrated to replace what can > be and > has been used as such an accessibility enhancing attribute as > @summary. Two suggestions I've seen so far are: * Use a <p> above the table describing the contents of the table. * Change the definition of <caption> to not just be the title of the table to also be allowed to contain a summary. Both these have the advantage if adding accessibility to all users rather than just ones that use AT clients. Another suggestion I've thought about is using the table@title attribute. Title attributes are already often used to add descriptive information out-of-flow. And title attributes are generally available in visual UAs in the form of tooltips. / Jonas -- Jonnie Appleseed with his Hands-On Technolog(eye)s reducing technology's disabilities one byte at a time
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