- From: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
- Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:39:41 +0200
- To: "William Loughborough" <love26@gorge.net>
- Cc: public-html@w3.org, wai-xtech@w3.org
On Tue, 13 May 2008 01:49:43 +0200, William Loughborough <love26@gorge.net> wrote: >> From : Anne van Kesteren[mailto:annevk@opera.com] >> I don't really see how this is fair. That there's disagreement over > certain things related to accessibility doesn't mean that accessibility > isn't taken seriously. It just means that not everyone is on the same > side > of the table when it comes to that subject. > > "that subject"? Accessibility? > Is it possible that after a decade of attempts to integrate > accessibility into > design we are still in an us/them configuration? I'm not sure what this means, but it does seem that after a decade of usage people have started getting divergent views on the success of having the alt="" attribute be required for instance. > Accessibility to the Web is the cornerstone of the World Wide Web, not > some bolted-on characteristic. I don't think anyone necessarily disagrees with that. It's the how we get there that people disagree over. > When an attempt is made to sacrifice one of the "poster children" of the > effort (the compulsory > nature of the @alt), it will soon emerge that there are those of us for > whom this "child" is as important as our own. That's ok, most people have strong views on one part or another. > No matter how hard one tries to disguise the implicit bigotry in this > "war of @alt - now in it's > second decade - the fact that keeps shining through is that <img> > without required @alt is so unacceptable as to beggar understanding. > > The position that because there are cases in which its inclusion is > inconvenient and deserves > another round of justification for accessibility's seamless > inclusion/integration is patently absurd. > > We are all in this together We are all members of one another > Universal Connection/Accessibility is a Human Right. I don't really see how it is patently absurd. Dismissing the scenario where the author of the HTML can't provide alt="" and therefore makes something up to get rid of validation messages will not help us move forward here. Whether this is addressed using <img src=vacation.jpg noalt>, <img src=vacation.jpg alt=Photo important>, <img src=vacation.jpg>, etc. is what is under discussion now. -- Anne van Kesteren <http://annevankesteren.nl/> <http://www.opera.com/>
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