- From: Evans, Donald <Donald.Evans@corp.aol.com>
- Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:17:19 -0400
- To: "Charles McCathieNevile" <chaals@opera.com>, "John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program" <jfoliot@stanford.edu>, "Schnabel, Stefan" <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>, <wai-xtech@w3.org>
- Cc: "Keim, Oliver" <oliver.keim@sap.com>, "Wlodkowski, Thomas" <Thomas.Wlodkowski@corp.aol.com>
> -----Original Message----- > From: Charles McCathieNevile [mailto:chaals@opera.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:19 PM > To: John Foliot - Stanford Online Accessibility Program; > 'Schnabel, Stefan'; wai-xtech@w3.org > Cc: 'Keim, Oliver'; Evans, Donald; Wlodkowski, Thomas > Subject: Re: Future of accesskey in DHTML based Widgets > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:38:18 -0000, John Foliot - Stanford > Online Accessibility Program <jfoliot@stanford.edu> wrote: > > > Schnabel, Stefan wrote: > >> In > >> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/ > >> accesskey attribute is missing. I assume intentionally because of > >> browser issues (different implementations etc.). > > Well, that's a draft - it doesn't have consensus in general > and in particular there is not apparent consensus that > accesskey should be dropped. Personally I ahve written a > proposal for the group, which I hope they get around to > considering in due time. Effectively that would allow for > accesskey as currently used in markup, but require the > browsers to expose it (and allow them to remap things where > the key that the author proposes isn't actually available). > > ... > >> I believe that accesskey attribute support in content is > crucial for > >> ease of navigation of business applications in > contemporary browsers, > >> even for people without AT. > >> > >> In addition, it will reduce the amount of JS coding for > developers of > >> widget toolkits. > > These are pretty much in line with my opinions. I am hoping > that instead of building complex javascript-based keymaping > systems we can use accesskey to greatly simplify the tasks of > making things keyboard accessible and letting users keep > using their user interfaces. I very much agree with this. We spend a lot of time writing JS keyboard handlers, and they are not easy to write. A properly functioning accesskey would make a difference. ---don > > ... > > The key is that the browsers *MUST* allow end users to > re-map "hot keys" > > to match the needs of individual users; anything short of that > > introduces usability and accessibility issues that have > already been > > well documented. > ... > > Given that HTML5 is being driven (force fed?) by the major browser > > developers, I believe that the responsibility rests with them to > > revisit accesskey and continue to support it's intent, but > correctly > > this time (please). > > Well, I am not sure that we are force-feeding the document, > and browser makers are one set of stakeholders among several > (content developers, producers of authoring tools, people who > write educational stuff that others use are all important > too) but yes, this is on the radar. > > cheers > > Chaals > > -- > Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group > je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk > http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera 9.5: http://snapshot.opera.com >
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