- From: Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org>
- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:24:51 -0400
- To: W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>
References: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/#tab http://dev.aol.com/dhtml_style_guide#tabpanel Both the spec and the style guide say that the tab-list is single- selection: one and only one tab is 'active' at a time. The style guide says focus goes to the tab. The spec says that the browser manages the identification of the active tab. But that "There is no property in the taxonomy for this." I interpret this as saying "No, @aria-selected is not used on element.role='aria-tab' to indicate this." But one is left to wonder why. Do we have different theories about where the focus goes? I asked a moment ago how the user (from the keyboard) gets the focus off the tab and into the tabpanel, should there be a focusable item in there. But I have to ask of the spec: If the browser controls which tab is active, and the active tab is supposed to control show/hide of the tabs and tabpanels, but the script is responsible for the show/hide behavior; how does the CSS or script know what the browser has identified as the active tab? Or how does the browser change show/hide directly as a function of the active tab without violating our non-interference principle, roughly that ARIA processing does not change the browser processing of the DIV? http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/#ua_noninterference If we follow the behavior stated in the style guide, then the script can manipulate the tabbing sequence (in HTML, @tabindex) so that one and only one of the tabs has a non-negative @tabindex. Then the script and CSS can key show/hide off the @tabindex, directly or indirectly. But if the focus moves directly into the tabpanel somewhere, and the browser chases up the ancestor chain to find an element.role='aria-tabpanel' and then follows @aria-labelledby to find the associated tab, how does the browser then indicate that this tab is the active tab? Whether it manipulates @aria-selected or @tabindex, in either case the browser will be changing the DOM based on WAI-ARIA side-effect (behavior) rules. I don't think we can entirely eliminate such 'managed properties' within the DOM definition of the document and have a healthy universal-access design. So this relates to ISSUE-47 on "who sets what properties when." Al
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