- From: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
- Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 10:17:18 -0500
- To: Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org>, Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>, wai-xtech@w3.org
- Cc: lguarino@adobe.com
here is one of my favorite collection of complex tables with accessible mark-up. http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/basel2/docs2005/potentialimpact.ht m Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org]On > Behalf Of Al Gilman > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:01 AM > To: Loretta Guarino Reid; wai-xtech@w3.org > Cc: lguarino@adobe.com > Subject: Re: HTML WG needs complex tables with accessible markup > > > > [some addressees dropped; let's try to hold down the cross-posting on > this one. -Al] > > At 7:39 AM -0700 6 06 2007, Loretta Guarino Reid wrote: > >Gez, is the HTML Working Group only interested in HTML examples? I've > >come across complex tables of this sort in PDF. > > HTML WG doesn't get to say. > > Sorry to sound fierce. > > PFWG is coordinating the response from WAI to HTML WG on this point. > Yes, irregular tables put on the web in PDF are germane. We won't > necessarily have accessible examples. But even if there are inaccessible > examples and no accessible HTML alternative, it is part of "What the > Web affords by way of information" to the TAB user. > > Specific examples that are live on the Web now are sought. HTML > examples, both with and without accessible markup, are better. But > any 'irregular tables' that @scope would not explain successfully (if > implemented through to the AT user experience) are the particular > issue, as Gez said. > > Al > > > > >Loretta > > > >On 6/6/07, Gez Lemon <gez.lemon@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>Hi Gregory, > >> > >>On 06/06/07, Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net> wrote: > >>> > >>> aloha, one and all! > >>> > >>> the HTML Working Group is in search of complex table > examples, with and > >>> without the accessibility features defined for TABLE in HTML4/XHTML1, > >>> and the mother of all tables i know of is located at: > >>> > >>> http://www.m-w.com/mw/table/indoeuro.htm > >> > >>This table will be useful to the HTML working group (in its current > >>form, marked up correctly with just scope, marked up correctly with > >>just the headers attribute, and marked up correctly with both scope > >>and the headers attribute), but they're also after irregular tables, > >>where the headers for a particular data cell aren't necessarily in the > >>same row or column. Although this table is complex in that there are > >>multiple layers of headers, they're easily resolved using the scope > >>attribute. They need examples that can't be resolved with scope, and > >>requires the headers attribute to unambiguously associate headers with > >>data cells. They're aware that the headers attribute is better > >>supported by assistive technology than scope, but aren't convinced > >>that there is a need for the attribute, as every example they've seen > >>would work with just the scope attribute. > >> > >>Best regards, > >> > >>Gez > >> > >>-- > >>_____________________________ > >>Supplement your vitamins > >>http://juicystudio.com > > >
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